GBPF banning

kirkynick said:
I was going to ask you, don't the possible health effects make you stop and think, "Why the hell am I doing this?"
No hate Sam, just interested. I'm sure you'll reach your goals, and each to their own and all that.

FAT_SAM said:
With all due respect the first part of your post is horses**t. A 10ml syringe doesn't lift f**k all by itself. I still had to spend 15 hours a week in the gym and stuff myself with 10K calories a day and 500g protein per day (a lot of cows were sacrificed so I could bench big) and deal with countless injuries to bench 240kg+ raw! PEDs help LOADS but it was me that benched that PB not a syringe. For every modest level lifter on them there are 20 idiots that take loads, go out on the piss multiple times a week and eat next to f**k all and the majority of these have yet to sniff their first 3 plates-a-side bench. By what you're saying every clown that knows how to stick a needle in his arse would be repping 5 wheels!

FAT_SAM said:

These days I am on TRT stemming from past use. Basically I don't function normally without it.

rawlifter said:Ive always stayed clean but trained with a lot of assisted lifters and friends in the past and what I can say is gear makes a huge difference. Just to clarify using gear dosent mean you dont work hard and geared users may work as hard as the hardest working nattys, thats down to the individual not the drug.

What is true however is it makes a huge difference and makes lifts a lot easier with less work of course than it would natural. Of course at the top end all lifters work hard regardless.

I have no problem with using or not, i just wish it was open and everyone was honest about it.

FAT_SAM said:Which brings me back to my original point - using flippers is fine as long as the competition is also doing so and the rules of the competition permit it. If you're on, then compete untested and don't be a wa**er.