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RobboIcon...03-07-2015 @ 20:57 
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When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue.
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Post Edited: 03.07.2015 @ 21:06 PM by Robbo
Trt comes on the Nhs Will

The BSSM (British society of sexual medicine) have guidelines for doctors/specialists to work to

Normal testosterone range is 8nmol/l - 29nmol/l (although some ranges are different depending on where your results come from)

0-8 - trt required
8-12 - trt trial advised
12+ - no trt required

Edit - you also need 3 separate readings (that fall into the brackets above) for the specialist to take action. Not all specialists work to these guidelines either apparently and some have to be quoted these for them to be pro-active as many will try and fob you off. Which I can believe as money is obviously tight with the nhs.
FAT_SAMIcon...04-07-2015 @ 02:11 
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more like 'FAT TROLL'
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http://www.bssm.org.uk/downloads/default.asp

Read the one about androgens in men.
bcrusherIcon...04-07-2015 @ 04:20 
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As far as the GBPF/WADA is concerned doesn't HRT/TRT mean you should be competing in the untested feds? http://www.usapowerlifting.com/drug-testing/notice-replacement...
justaboutpastitIcon...04-07-2015 @ 08:29 
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Post Edited: 04.07.2015 @ 08:33 AM by justaboutpastit
WILLSAN said:
U.S. healthcare is a disaster. If we are heading to that in 10 years we are f**ked.


I totally agree the system is a disaster. However the treatment of some illnesses* is way ahead.

at the same time I agree with what my GP said on Thurs "the U.S. medical system seem to invent new illnesses just to keep people coming back".

* note i do not mean all illnesses I can only speak re the ones that effect me and I have researched.*
kennybabyIcon...06-07-2015 @ 13:53 
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FAT_SAM said:
I found that
Drug free I did 260 160 265
On my bests are 300 245 317.5
Huge huge bench improvement.
Supposedly there are more androgen receptors in the muscles in the upper body.
I might also add, as someone who competes untested, if you use then grow a set of balls and compete untested! You're a faggot otherwise!


excellent post ... very open and refreshing ...
CuddlesIcon...06-07-2015 @ 15:58 
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Great contribution from Robbo too. Very upfront and honest.

What he sees in the people he knows that use is the same as what I saw in the local gyms round here, ie lots of young, uninformed/misinformed people doing a lot of things they are probably going to regret in the future, with no real idea of what they are doing at all.
deleted2_20210523Icon...06-07-2015 @ 16:23 
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RossAIcon...23-07-2015 @ 16:17 
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Cuddles said:Great contribution from Robbo too. Very upfront and honest.

What he sees in the people he knows that use is the same as what I saw in the local gyms round here, ie lots of young, uninformed/misinformed people doing a lot of things they are probably going to regret in the future, with no real idea of what they are doing at all.


x2 This thread has been really interesting.
brownbearIcon...23-07-2015 @ 16:34 
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justaboutpastit said:
I totally agree the system is a disaster. However the treatment of some illnesses* is way ahead.
at the same time I agree with what my GP said on Thurs "the U.S. medical system seem to invent new illnesses just to keep people coming back".
* note i do not mean all illnesses I can only speak re the ones that effect me and I have researched.*


I think their tendency to overinvestigate and the patients "right" to request medications they've read about on the Internet are awful. I also don't like their ability to find a drug treatment for everything.
But Hunt clearly wants a private health system over here. His constant and harrowing criticism of doctors in the NhS who are experts in their fields and spend half their lives at work is appalling and disgusting. The only explanation being to discredit the profession and make the transition to private healthcare seamless

If doctors were really that well paid or money driven, we would embrace privatisation. Think about
RobboIcon...23-07-2015 @ 17:36 
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When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue.
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kirkynick said:
It's pretty sad reading to be honest mate.
Hope you will eventually get back to your old self.


I'm not too bad now mate, I'm fit, in decent nick, I've got a jawline and a mega fit bird too. Didn't realise I was this handsome without the gear bloat Grin
deleted2_20210523Icon...23-07-2015 @ 17:38 
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RobboIcon...23-07-2015 @ 17:42 
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When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue.
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kirkynick said:
Photos?


Of me or the bird? Lol

Tell me how to upload them and I will Wink
deleted2_20210523Icon...23-07-2015 @ 17:50 
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RobboIcon...23-07-2015 @ 17:57 
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When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue.
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kirkynick said:
I ain't fussy. So both Tongue
You have copy the URL of the photos and then stick it between the boxes as below (obviously you delete all the stars and insert url):
*****insert url***********


I will do some photo bucketing for you as I know you and boar want to see my pecs
deleted2_20210523Icon...23-07-2015 @ 17:58 
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