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| Stetec |  | Follow on thread from Unit 20 Novice comp thread/Novice eligibility thread | 09-09-2010 @ 14:01 |
 Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | Fire away guys. | ||
| martinb | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:05 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Boar and Kenny did the novice comp earlier in the year, then Englands u90, and soon Britains Did they do these u90 comps last year? I'd like to hear their opinions on it | ||
| ITRG | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:07 |
 PS ... i love you Member 521, 2568 posts SQ 200, BP 125, DL 265590.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | copyed from other tread robocop said: Hey stainless says he does not like weight catigories and gets that and I ask should someone be able to go back and do a novice after a national and I get "f**king grow up" stainless huh gets away with murder on here !! Andy fair enough i might of over reacted and if i did i apologise but i think yourself and ken can admitt there is a big difference from u90's and u105's i contacted yourself about the 105's but thought it was too heavy too soon. i understand what you's are saying about going from a national back to a novice but there are not enough comps up here and i am egger to progress and get better in our chosen sport. but i do not understand your or kens point about rules for one and different rules for another???? didn't scott do a national lever comp and go back to do a novice??? | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:08 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.09.2010 @ 14:09 PM by MrSmall Ah but that wasn't strictly a NOVICE comp, it was f**kING HEAVY. Not sure if Boar had ever done a strongman competition before that, Kenny had done a few but no crazy finishing positions except Oly Dragons 1.At the end of the day it is up to individual promoters to say you're not a novice, and you are. | ||
| martinb | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:10 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.09.2010 @ 14:11 PM by martinb MrSmall said:Ah but that wasn't strictly a NOVICE comp, it was f**kING HEAVY. Not sure if Boar had ever done a strongman competition before that, Kenny had done a few but no crazy finishing positions except Oly Dragons 1. At the end of the day it is up to individual promoters to say you're not a novice, and you are. yeah, but it still wasn't open, or even inter level oh right, they hadn't done u90 nationals before, I'll just shut my mouth | ||
| Joni | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:11 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | why dont you guys just leave it up to the promotors to decide? | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:11 |
 Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | I don't think either had competed in a national qualifier at the time. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:12 |
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | I said:why dont you guys just leave it up to the promotors to decide? actually, thats a silly comment, it shouldnt go like that. I retract. | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:14 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | PeteHodgson said:I don't think either had competed in a national qualifier at the time. Kenny had AND HE WAS TERRIBLE! No, not terrible, just didn't qualify  | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:25 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | Rather than carry on the other threads ranting, what would be useful is if everyone could suggest what their idea of novice competition criteria should be. | ||
| mikehowarth | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:26 |
 Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Joni said:why dont you guys just leave it up to the promotors to decide? good quote that JC? | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:28 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Novice = someone who has not trained strength for very long or have more than average powerlifting numbers, regardless of competition history, if he has been lifting weights for 10 years and pulls 300 but has never competed is not a novice. If he is weak then he is not above "novice" level weight competitions so why shouldn't he be allowed? Anyone can join a competition and suck ass, doesn't make him stronger and guarantee he will do better at the next one. | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:29 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | My humble opinion: Have never competed in a national level competition. Have never placed higher than top 3 in a novice competition. I realise that this would cause problems for the scottish contingency but, a line needs to be drawn in the sand somewhere. If this causes a problem, there is nothing stopping the likes of Unit 20 laying on comps under a different title such as free for all experience comps, inters, or whatever title takes their fancy. | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:31 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | I don't think novice should be strength dependant. I think it should be more about experience. If a really strong guy does a novice comp and wins/places higher then he won't do one again, he'll step up. In theory. Everyones got to start somewhere, you don't jump into the premier league just because you're a great player. | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 09-09-2010 @ 14:35 |
Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Stetec said:Rather than carry on the other threads ranting, what would be useful is if everyone could suggest what their idea of novice competition criteria should be. I like the idea of a (rough) standard set of weights, which has been mentioned elsewhere. ie 90kg log, and I'll add my own rough figures- 90-110 farmers, 200-250 yoke, 100kgish axle clean and press, 200-220 deads, I'd probably say 80-90 log. There's no need for every comp to be axactly the same, and these suggestions probably take into my weaknesses to a certain extent. When you can do these events/weights without no repping, and place reasonably, and feel like you can perform at a higher level comp, then move up. Obviously this relies on honesty, but it would become apparent to other competitors if you were taking the piss. Just my initial thinking so far. | ||
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