Flintoff vs Dawson

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martinb		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:43
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	BenMac said: Aye, but my point was that Flintoff is handed a pro-licence and a fat payday yet has paid no dues whatsoever to boxing and never had so much as an amateur fight before this. I hope the other fella hasnt read his script properly and ends it early. I get ya now I'm surprised Flintoff is making money off it tbh, I thought he'd give it to charity or something

BenMac		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:47
'Looks like Ben Affleck according to Pagan' Member 876, 2506 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 260 620.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Its allllll about Pricey tonight anyway!

JC		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:49
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	BenMac said: Aye, but my point was that Flintoff is handed a pro-licence and a fat payday yet has paid no dues whatsoever to boxing and never had so much as an amateur fight before this. I hope the other fella hasnt read his script properly and ends it early. were have you read what Flintoff stands to make from this fight? Given the huge amount of charity work he does, i'd be suprised if this fight is linning his pockets

LessThanLuke		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:51
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420 890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq	aaron_lohan said: Because its an insult to the people who have spent years training hard to get that level. Bullst. If they did well then clearly they are good enough to be there and if they are st and embarrass themselves who gets harmed other than them?

aaron_lohan		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:51
Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210 682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq	BenMac said: Aye, but my point was that Flintoff is handed a pro-licence and a fat payday yet has paid no dues whatsoever to boxing. Exactly

BenMac		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:52
'Looks like Ben Affleck according to Pagan' Member 876, 2506 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 260 620.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	JC said: were have you read what Flintoff stands to make from this fight? Given the huge amount of charity work he does, i'd be suprised if this fight is linning his pockets I havent read it, im just assuming, the same way you are assuming he's giving it to charity.

JC		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:53
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	I think McGuigan is a stand up guy..this is what he says about the fight; "This is my business, I'm not involved in a stunt," says McGuigan. "I have boxing academies, I have professional fighters, I have a kid who's sixth in the world. Anyone who says that to me insults me. "For all the people who say we've demeaned the sport it couldn't be further from the truth - it's the absolute opposite of that. "I would never get involved in something that wouldn't be anything but praiseworthy of boxing. "Freddie Flintoff has trained insatiably hard, he's worked himself to the bone - look at the transformation. There's no way he could have got to that without having worked his cotton socks off. "Bear in mind this is a four two-minute round contest, so it's down the bottom of the ladder of performances. "He understands from the four-and-a-half months he's grafted for this just the sort of effort it takes to make it in boxing. "Rather than being disrespectful he's been hugely respectful so I don't listen to these idiots who say this sport has been demeaned. This is a great chance for him


martinb		...	30-11-2012 @ 12:55
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	From what McGuigan is saying there it does sound quite "real"

Jabba		...	30-11-2012 @ 15:12
and the winning number is... 88! Member 647, 2048 posts SQ 222.5, BP 152.5, DL 242.5 617.5 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq	dr_hazbun said:It will be calculated. The guy he's fighting will be a total bum. Yet no one is suggesting that his opponent shouldn't be a pro.

Cuddles		...	30-11-2012 @ 15:48
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	JC said:I think McGuigan is a stand up guy..this is what he says about the fight; "This is my business, I'm not involved in a stunt," says McGuigan. "I have boxing academies, I have professional fighters, I have a kid who's sixth in the world. Anyone who says that to me insults me. "For all the people who say we've demeaned the sport it couldn't be further from the truth - it's the absolute opposite of that. "I would never get involved in something that wouldn't be anything but praiseworthy of boxing. "Freddie Flintoff has trained insatiably hard, he's worked himself to the bone - look at the transformation. There's no way he could have got to that without having worked his cotton socks off. "Bear in mind this is a four two-minute round contest, so it's down the bottom of the ladder of performances. "He understands from the four-and-a-half months he's grafted for this just the sort of effort it takes to make it in boxing. "Rather than being disrespectful he's been hugely respectful so I don't listen to these idiots who say this sport has been demeaned. This is a great chance for him Well at least someone who has not just a vested, but financial interest in this fight is able to be objective. Oh, wait.... I like McGuigan, a lot, but he spouts all manners of bulls**t on Sky, and all of it about his fighters. The other pundits pretty much acknowledge that live on air. This is the same McGuigan who said 'Flintoff is as ready as he can ever be', anyone think that is true as well?

Cuddles		...	30-11-2012 @ 15:51
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	Here is what Maloney had to say: "It's not for the meek. It's his choice and I wish him luck, but I think it's a bad decision by the British Board of Control to give a 34-year-old former sportsman a boxing licence.......... "At 34 years old you can't make a career out of boxing. There are lots of young fighters who have worked their butt off to get to a certain level. They are trying hard and they can't even get a television slot. "You get Freddie Flintoff claiming he wants to be a professional boxer and they make a documentary about him. "We'll get every other sportsman who's failed in their own sport or called it a day coming into boxing. The British Boxing Board of Control shouldn't have granted him a licence." Doesnt make him right, but it shows that there are more views within pro boxing than McGuigan's....

JC		...	30-11-2012 @ 15:55
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	McGuigan is a fking legend... Maloney is a toer.... That is all

dr_hazbun		...	30-11-2012 @ 16:32
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250 635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq	All this has highlighted one thing to me: that Flintoff was a UNIT of a cricketer. The Sun says that he's 15 1/2 stone fighting weight after having lost 2 stone. At 17 1/2 stone he must have been an intimidating figure with ball in hand. Always thought he was a big guy, but not that big.

martinb		...	30-11-2012 @ 16:34
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	dr_hazbun said:All this has highlighted one thing to me: that Flintoff was a UNIT of a cricketer. The Sun says that he's 15 1/2 stone fighting weight after having lost 2 stone. At 17 1/2 stone he must have been an intimidating figure with ball in hand. Always thought he was a big guy, but not that big. surely he just got fat(ter) when he finished cricket? but when I think about it, he is that lean and still 217, that is pretty big!

Luke27		...	30-11-2012 @ 17:37
lets get learning !!! Member 1598, 723 posts SQ 210, BP 130, DL 200 540.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	aaron_lohan said: Because its an insult to the people who have spent years training hard to get that level. What level ? If youve been fighting years you shouldn't be at this level and you would never accept the fight. If youve been doing it years and your at this level then maybe your not that good. Also to the people who say its for the pay day? I think hes got more then enough money, I dont think he needs a boxing match to get more (although he will get alot of money from this i doubt it was his primary reason)

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