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martinbIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:29 
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aaron_lohan said:
I agree, its an insult to all those boxers who spend years training and fighting to become pros.
Lets look at this from another angle, lets say a celebrity decides to be a strong man and he enters a pro strongman event after 14 weeks of training, how would you all feel then?


Not even close to being the same thing

Most pro boxing is a terribly low level. This fight is not the same as BSM its the same as a novice comp
LessThanLukeIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:29 
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aaron_lohan said:
I agree, its an insult to all those boxers who spend years training and fighting to become pros.
Lets look at this from another angle, lets say a celebrity decides to be a strong man and he enters a pro strongman event after 14 weeks of training, how would you all feel then?


Fine. Why would anyone feel any different?
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Jabba said:Hence the almost. He had more completely boring fights against the easiest opponents he could get and made no attempt to dispatch them. He even admitted on a recent episode of Ringside that he would try to win on points unless you "antagonised him".

He ducked Benn for long enough until he needed a big pay day due to his unpaid tax bill. Eubank repeatedy makes claims to be a Warrior but in my opinion he was nothig more than a businessman who would have quit boxing in an instant if he could earn more money doing absolutely anything ele.


A lot of them fights were determined by his manager and that 8 fight Sky deal.

To be fair to him he didnt duck many fights, he fought Collins twice, Benn twice, Watson twice and Calzaghe at the last minute with little preparation.
ursusIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:31 
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William Hills were offering EVENS on this fight a couple of days ago so maybe the dude hes fighting is a bum !! Bookies dont normally chuck good money away .
But in theory with zero ameteur fights and going straight in against a guy rumoured to have been up against Kimbo Slice he shouldnt be standing for very long . But then again for some boxers ,boxing is all about laying down when your told to !!
LessThanLukeIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:32 
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martinb said:
Not even close to being the same thing
Most pro boxing is a terribly low level. This fight is not the same as BSM its the same as a novice comp


Also this. He's not fighting for a title. He's fighting another new pro.
martinbIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:33 
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ursus said:William Hills were offering EVENS on this fight a couple of days ago so maybe the dude hes fighting is a bum !! Bookies dont normally chuck good money away .
But in theory with zero ameteur fights and going straight in against a guy rumoured to have been up against Kimbo Slice he shouldnt be standing for very long . But then again for some boxers ,boxing is all about laying down when your told to !!


If Flintoff gets knocked out there is no more money to be made

I simply can't see that happening
EdenIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:35 
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I say all the best to Flintoff. I don't see why it's a joke, didn't Layla Ali do something similar and become a female world champ? (not saying Freddie will ever get that far and I know Layla was never a celeb previously). No one complains when someone jumps into MMA at a pro level without any Ammy or semi pro bouts. If the lad wants to fight then why not? Even if he fought as an ammy fighter, you really think it wouldn't be on TV and Frank Warren wouldn't be lining his pockets? It's not like he is doing it just for a pay day, if he was, it would be far easier to do something like 'I'm a celeb' or a show of that nature.
JCIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:35 
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martinb said:
If Flintoff gets knocked out there is no more money to be made
I simply can't see that happening


not only this...whoever set up the fight would not put Freddie at significant risk

could you imagine the s**tstorm if something serious happened to him during the fight?
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It will be calculated. The guy he's fighting will be a total bum.
BenMacIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:37 
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martinb said:
Not even close to being the same thing
Most pro boxing is a terribly low level. This fight is not the same as BSM its the same as a novice comp


Except people in novice comps dont get paid thousands of pounds to take part.
martinbIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:38 
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BenMac said:
Except people in novice comps dont get paid thousands of pounds to take part.


True, but its not like many do in strongman
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LessThanLuke said:
Fine. Why would anyone feel any different?


Because its an insult to the people who have spent years training hard to get that level.
martinbIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:41 
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aaron_lohan said:
Because its an insult to the people who have spent years training hard to get that level.


nope

might just mean they are better than you
BenMacIcon...30-11-2012 @ 12:42 
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martinb said:
True, but its not like many do in strongman


Aye, but my point was that Flintoff is handed a pro-licence and a fat payday yet has paid no dues whatsoever to boxing and never had so much as an amateur fight before this.

I hope the other fella hasnt read his script properly and ends it early.

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