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paul_richards		...	08-05-2009 @ 14:56
I personally prefer the stiffest possible. Member 158, 3110 posts SQ 170, BP 107.5, DL 222.5 500.0 kgs @ 67.4kgs UnEq	just_t said: i think i started off with about 20kg for afew reps pussy

Gymbunny72		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:00
strong chick with impeccable spelling Member 425, 56 posts SQ 107.5, BP 72.5, DL 168 348.0 kgs @ 53.2kgs UnEq	No, Really? That's what girls start with.

bhamstaff		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:16
the best deadlifter, just smaller numbers Member 469, 1131 posts SQ 280, BP 200, DL 320 800.0 kgs @ 116kgs UnEq	paul_richards said: I think I started off benching 40K so doing 50K first time around seems alright to me. but your 60kg, tim shaw is 15 stone!

paul_richards		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:39
I personally prefer the stiffest possible. Member 158, 3110 posts SQ 170, BP 107.5, DL 222.5 500.0 kgs @ 67.4kgs UnEq	bhamstaff said: paul_richards said: I think I started off benching 40K so doing 50K first time around seems alright to me. but your 60kg, tim shaw is 15 stone! yeah but I reckon there is not too much difference between a 15stone untrained guy and 10stone untrained guy's bench press, 20Kg maybe.

Carl		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:45
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	but u both started on 50kg???

paul_richards		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:46
I personally prefer the stiffest possible. Member 158, 3110 posts SQ 170, BP 107.5, DL 222.5 500.0 kgs @ 67.4kgs UnEq	Carl said: but u both started on 50kg??? Both ?, who is both

Carl		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:50
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	are you mentally retaded or something paul??


bhamstaff		...	08-05-2009 @ 16:57
the best deadlifter, just smaller numbers Member 469, 1131 posts SQ 280, BP 200, DL 320 800.0 kgs @ 116kgs UnEq	paul_richards said: bhamstaff said: paul_richards said: I think I started off benching 40K so doing 50K first time around seems alright to me. but your 60kg, tim shaw is 15 stone! yeah but I reckon there is not too much difference between a 15stone untrained guy and 10stone untrained guy's bench press, 20Kg maybe. yeh there would be big differance depending on weight as goes for your max lifts and someone heaviers max lifts

paul_richards		...	08-05-2009 @ 17:42
I personally prefer the stiffest possible. Member 158, 3110 posts SQ 170, BP 107.5, DL 222.5 500.0 kgs @ 67.4kgs UnEq	Carl said: are you mentally retaded or something paul?? Spell Checker for Carl please

paul_richards		...	08-05-2009 @ 17:43
I personally prefer the stiffest possible. Member 158, 3110 posts SQ 170, BP 107.5, DL 222.5 500.0 kgs @ 67.4kgs UnEq	bhamstaff said: paul_richards said: bhamstaff said: paul_richards said: I think I started off benching 40K so doing 50K first time around seems alright to me. but your 60kg, tim shaw is 15 stone! yeah but I reckon there is not too much difference between a 15stone untrained guy and 10stone untrained guy's bench press, 20Kg maybe. yeh there would be big differance depending on weight as goes for your max lifts and someone heaviers max lifts I was talking about untrained people, ie first time at the gym

nathan		...	08-05-2009 @ 18:52
no longer sugdens strongest man Member 455, 1336 posts	i thought it was a load of bo*cks which had me and my misses in stitches all night. kirein fair play you got paid so who cares secondly people need to watch a documentry call bigger faster stronger when it comes to steroids becuase at the end of the day its a dark secret which no one talks about. theres a lot of negative st around it. and its all down to personal preference. as to say all top people take themn is a bold statment but naivity is not good either. i thought the programme just confirmed what people thought of muscles heads. 1 they all take gear 2 there thick 3 they cant communicate well now its a good job i know you kerien cause none of that is true but due to good documentry editing thats how it came across. which is shame.

Martin1956		...	08-05-2009 @ 19:14
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7928 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200 400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq	I think you've got to bear in mind that most documentary makers set out with a predetermined objective/message to put across, and they tend to find people and situations which, with skillful editing, support their standpoint. If any one of us on here was interviewed for two hours, there'd probably be a few minutes worth that we wish we could do again. If the programme makers then use those few minutes worth they can totally distort the situation to suit their own agenda. Plus they got Kieron to do bodybuilding poses, and he's a strongman, not a bodybuilder! Apparently it happened with Mike Read on 'I'm A Celebrity...' a couple of years ago. He was by all accounts the life and soul of the group, organised all the entertainment, etc., etc., but they didn't show any footage of him and he was voted off first! 'Normal' people tend to be quite jealous/envious of guys with gym bodies and their inferiority manifests itself through ridicule. Programme makers are no different, so you've got to understand that's where where they're coming from. Until you get someone who empathises with the whole gym culture to make a film about it, like the Pumping Iron guys did in the 70s, programmes like this will inevitably be s**te, totally unrepresentative of our culture, and completely misleading to joe public who knows no better and gets his information from tv documentaries.

Tannhauser		...	08-05-2009 @ 20:42
fighting woo with woo Member 206, 1491 posts SQ 227.5, BP 165, DL 260 652.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Martin1956 said: Until you get someone who empathises with the whole gym culture to make a film about it, like the Pumping Iron guys did in the 70s, programmes like this will inevitably be s**te, totally unrepresentative of our culture, and completely misleading to joe public who knows no better and gets his information from tv documentaries. I think you're spot on about the agenda often being decided well before anyoone is filmed. Have you read John Hotten's book 'Muscle'? I think that's a good example of a journalist able to develop an empathy for the characters he has encountered, while still maintaining a critical perspective. Not a film-maker, but shows how it can be done

mikeyp		...	08-05-2009 @ 21:12
bollocks to global warming Member 475, 1735 posts SQ 200, BP 125, DL 235 560.0 kgs @ 115kgs UnEq	Cuddles said: Kieran, that wasnt his point. He was saying that GBPF IS tested, whereas you said that it wasnt. Of course there are going to be lifters who get passed drug tests, just like there are cyclists, sprinters, shot putters etc. But GBPF does test. I read an article a while ago about the Dwain Chambers / Conte collaboration and it would seem that anyone 'in the know' could quite easily beat the testers. How do these cheaters sleep at night. I have no problem with lifters who want to use PEDs and respect their decision to do so, it's impressive to see those top performances, but anyone with any conscience and sense of fair play wouldn't take drugs and lift in a tested federation and thus deprive clean lifters of titles and records.

Duncan		...	08-05-2009 @ 21:29
deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5 780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq	mikeyp said: Cuddles said: Kieran, that wasnt his point. He was saying that GBPF IS tested, whereas you said that it wasnt. Of course there are going to be lifters who get passed drug tests, just like there are cyclists, sprinters, shot putters etc. But GBPF does test. I read an article a while ago about the Dwain Chambers / Conte collaboration and it would seem that anyone 'in the know' could quite easily beat the testers. How do these cheaters sleep at night. I have no problem with lifters who want to use PEDs and respect their decision to do so, it's impressive to see those top performances, but anyone with any conscience and sense of fair play wouldn't take drugs and lift in a tested federation and thus deprive clean lifters of titles and records. Isn't that kinda contradicting. You have no problem with steroids in lifting but in athletics steroids suddenly becomes "cheating"?

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