Equipped- how much extra does it give?
| JamieG |  | ... | 14-08-2012 @ 21:01 |
 Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | MaxCooper said:I support PISS what divisions will it have, or should we make it: 1 division based upon Wilks, RAAAWWWW no belt, no wraps, no sleeves, no shoes standardised 7s pause on the chest brown stains must be left on the floor during the squat or its high deadlifts can only be conventional, none of that cheating sumo that lifts the weight for you Nice ruleset there. I also propose: - Deadlifts must be held at lockout (5s) to truly test the athletes grip. - No chalk. - Front squats are allowed (optionally) and the weight lifted multiplied by 1.5 to even up the playing field. - President of PISS will change every year based on forum posts throughout the year. (posts regarding bigfoot or measuring 18" are not counted.) | ||
| Funky_monkey | | ... | 14-08-2012 @ 22:53 |
 403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Belt only i've managed squat 227, 240 in wraps, 250ish in kit. Bench 155 for an easy single, 190 in a shirt Deadlift 245 belt only, 262.5 in a suit All single ply stuff, squat was in single ply briefs. | ||
| MaxCooper | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 09:04 |
 1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | JamieG said: Nice ruleset there. I also propose: - Deadlifts must be held at lockout (5s) to truly test the athletes grip. - No chalk. - Front squats are allowed (optionally) and the weight lifted multiplied by 1.5 to even up the playing field. - President of PISS will change every year based on forum posts throughout the year. (posts regarding bigfoot or measuring 18" are not counted.) weve still not got a rule we can enforce ridiculously past how the rule was intended and written, were taken all the rules to the extreme up to now maybe on weigh ins we put 3 judges around the scale and depending on how the weigh in looks form-wise they can get failed with 3 attempts to pass | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 09:07 |
Member 2606, 11453 posts SQ 170, BP 117.5, DL 215502.5 kgs @ 91.6kgs UnEq | deleted | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 09:44 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Fazc said: That's a surprisingly militant statement coming from you Kenders. Brothers unite! As I said nothing wrong with people liftig equipped. I enjoy watching and supporting equipped lifters and equipped meet. However gaining that much support and kg on the platform from kit is not what powerlifting should be about. Whether people enjoy it, whether the lifters work dam hard, whether it's more technical, whether at the moment strongest lifters lift equipped. I just don't see it as what the sport should have been about. As for GBPF crashing and being unfriendly? Well I am sure there are instances of sillyness and politics. Plus everyone has difference experincs with any org. However when I go too meets I almost never hear any gripping from the lifters about how 'unfriendly' the meet were or how the rules were not enforced. I'll be honest I have not lifted at, or been to, a meet of any fed that has been as consistenalty demonstrated such strict and consistent reffing. This is off course just my own experince and the majority of those I know. | ||
| MaxCooper | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 10:32 |
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | kirkynick said:Max, out of interest, why do you like equipment? Explain the appeal of it. Not putting it down, I have friends who do equipped lifting. Just interested. well the reason i got into lifting other than bro curlz was i saw a video of a multiply squat of just over 1000lbs and the guys nose burst and i thought it looked cool as f**k and i was like i wanna do that personally im more impressed by a bigger number done equipped than the lesser number done without the support eq. for example id much rather see an 800lbs eq squat than a 600lbs raw squat, which may seem backways to some people AND as with my point about rowers that should swim, (also works for cyclists that need to run  ) It makes the competition have an element of skill I think isnt as high in Raw powerlifting (not an instult, the high raw numbers are done with retard strength), eg ill probably never beat tom martin on raw strength HOWEVER i could (not saying i will) beat him by having a more level head under the weight and learning how to do the lifts better. whereas in Raw lifting its my opinion that you can probably tell whos going to win just by gym lifts, whereas when you go to an eq. comp its not as predictable and needs you to be able to perfect your form to win | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 10:42 |
 Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Fair enough, I like to think I'm looking this more realistically rather than idealistically. Getting more poundage on the lifts via equipment has always been what powerlifting is about! IainKendrick said:As for GBPF crashing and being unfriendly? Well I am sure there are instances of sillyness and politics. Plus everyone has difference experincs with any org. However when I go too meets I almost never hear any gripping from the lifters about how 'unfriendly' the meet were or how the rules were not enforced. I'll be honest I have not lifted at, or been to, a meet of any fed that has been as consistenalty demonstrated such strict and consistent reffing. This is off course just my own experince and the majority of those I know. Yeah I agree, I don't think the GBPF has anything to worry about. But I can understand Max's point of view (or is it Louie's point of view?) that federations who don't move with the technological advancements we have, such as the monolift and new gear, will eventually break down as the lifters choose to go elsewhere. But inevitably that betrays nothing about the future, just about Louie's (sorry I mean Max's) disposition to gear. | ||
| MaxCooper | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 10:46 |
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | f**k you Fazc and no it wasnt Louie, it was discussed in the gym on Monday night | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 10:55 |
Member 2606, 11453 posts SQ 170, BP 117.5, DL 215502.5 kgs @ 91.6kgs UnEq | deleted | ||
| MaxCooper | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 11:01 |
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | you see when i watch lifting i dont really look a the eq I just see the weight on the bar | ||
| milsy | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 12:17 |
 Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | MaxCooper said:you see when i watch lifting i dont really look a the eq I just see the weight on the bar Judging by videos I have seen of multi ply lifting the refs are also more interested in the wieght rather than the lift its self Although I admit wpc or what ever it was called did look pretty cool with the stages hot women prize money and belts for trophys where as much kit as you want and take as much s**t as you can get your hands on and let the madness begin haha | ||
| JamieG | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 12:22 |
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | milsy said: Judging by videos I have seen of multi ply lifting the refs are also more interested in the wieght rather than the lift its self Although I admit wpc or what ever it was called did look pretty cool with the stages hot women prize money and belts for trophys where as much kit as you want and take as much s**t as you can get your hands on and let the madness begin haha What happened to that? I remember seeing a clip on YouTube it looked crazy. | ||
| MaxCooper | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 12:29 |
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.08.2012 @ 12:30 PM by MaxCooper you see THAT is the only problem in my eyes, the 'high' squats (i put that in apostrophies as i find excessive depth due to over-reffing just as rediculous)Multi ply/equiptment and monolifts, which i believe are advances in the sport, shouldnt go with high squats HOWEVER I dont blame the lifters as i think that a lifter SHOULD be doing ANYTHING they can get away with to lift the most weight and the judges should counterbalance this And the WPO failed, apparently they were paying the girls $500 a day to be in their bikinis whereas they were supporting the comp organisers and venues with $350 (avg) for the entire comp based on the number of lifters | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 12:53 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Could anyone see the way multiply changing powerlifting happening in a different sport? Eq perhaps started to let broken f**kers to lift without pain and has become a freakshow Imagine a sprinter with bad knees putting some ofthat physio tape on his knees and thighs. Eventually he decides f**k it, I'm going to have a bionic leg that's hard to use but if I can I'll be well faster ad I'll train not to e fast without it, but just to be skilled with my f**kin new leg. Ridiculous? | ||
| force10 | | ... | 15-08-2012 @ 13:24 |
 Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Some great points been raised, im just wondering how strong equipped lifter realy are without tne equipment. Im all for unequipped lifting I do hope its the future, theres definately more interest with a large selection of people coming into the sport which is good. Its also very easy lifting as theres no kit to struggle getting into and timing right before your lift. | ||
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