Elite 90k North qualifier
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| WILLSAN |  | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:06 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | no one is moaning. why would I? its not my qualifier. whether anyone believes it or not though, the esm stats say 200kg is a heavy squat for an esm qualifier. 1/3 of athletes who qualify for the final cant do it. FACT. | ||
| JC | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:12 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.01.2014 @ 16:15 PM by JC WILLSAN said:no one is moaning. why would I? its not my qualifier. whether anyone believes it or not though, the esm stats say 200kg is a heavy squat for an esm qualifier. 1/3 of athletes who qualify for the final cant do it. FACT. No...that was a FACT 3 years ago (2011 final) If your going to use FACTS, make sure they are recent pls Basically you couldnt do 200 so think its heavy...that doesn't mean its a FACT that it is I stand by my statement (and unlike you, who was trying to get personal, it was a general statemnet, nothing directed at you personally) | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:18 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | I do think it's a bit heavy for a qual but not overally heavy. 2012 it was 180 and trav got 20 i think? i got 16 and there were another 5 people roughly over 10 reps! | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:19 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | shanejer said:I do think it's a bit heavy for a qual but not overally heavy. 2012 it was 180 and trav got 20 i think? i got 16 and there were another 5 people roughly over 10 reps! and if someone gets 20 reps it's too light! so what is a promoter to do? | ||
| General_ill | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:21 |
 3rd place Europes strongest man 2016 U90kg Member 1239, 13275 posts SQ 280, BP 155, DL 310745.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.01.2014 @ 16:21 PM by General_ill shanejer said:I do think it's a bit heavy for a qual but not overally heavy. 2012 it was 180 and trav got 20 i think? i got 16 and there were another 5 people roughly over 10 reps! I got 12  | ||
| JC | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:22 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.01.2014 @ 16:23 PM by JC shanejer said:I do think it's a bit heavy for a qual but not overally heavy. 2012 it was 180 and trav got 20 i think? i got 16 and there were another 5 people roughly over 10 reps! so 7 get over 10 if you go by winner should be getting 8-12 reps, 180 is too light so how is 200 then astronomically heavy? | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:45 |
 understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9942 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | JC said: so 7 get over 10 if you go by winner should be getting 8-12 reps, 180 is too light so how is 200 then astronomically heavy? I don't care as I'm not doing this but.... You can't set the weight of an event based on the strongest individual at that event. At my best, I did 9 reps with 227.5kg belt only so that would have easily been 10-12 at 240kg with wraps. Going by your logic, a 240kg squat for reps would be reasonable...... | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:48 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | JC said: No...that was a FACT 3 years ago (2011 final) If your going to use FACTS, make sure they are recent pls Basically you couldnt do 200 so think its heavy...that doesn't mean its a FACT that it is I stand by my statement (and unlike you, who was trying to get personal, it was a general statemnet, nothing directed at you personally) it was a fact for 2009 (190), 2011 and 2012. might be different now but my guess would be not much. you said all those athletes who failed those weights or couldnt squat 200 when they competed werent worthy of their place. how is that not personal? who are you to say who is worthy and who isnt? and I wasnt getting personal. I dont actually believe a 105 athlete who cant do a 160 stone isnt worthy of their place in a national final. if you qualify, you are worthy! I was just pointing out the stupidity of your viewpoint. | ||
| JC | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:54 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | BigMacca said: I don't care as I'm not doing this but.... You can't set the weight of an event based on the strongest individual at that event. At my best, I did 9 reps with 227.5kg belt only so that would have easily been 10-12 at 240kg with wraps. Going by your logic, a 240kg squat for reps would be reasonable...... Macca 7 guys (so I presuming hald the field) got more than 10 reps I wasnt talking about the strongest individual, but half the field I'd say thats too light | ||
| JC | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 16:55 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: it was a fact for 2009 (190), 2011 and 2012. might be different now but my guess would be not much. you said all those athletes who failed those weights or couldnt squat 200 when they competed werent worthy of their place. how is that not personal? who are you to say who is worthy and who isnt? and I wasnt getting personal. I dont actually believe a 105 athlete who cant do a 160 stone isnt worthy of their place in a national final. if you qualify, you are worthy! I was just pointing out the stupidity of your viewpoint. 2012 was max squat at esm!? "not worthy" is perhaps not the correct way to put it.....I feel that an u90 national finalist should be squatting 200 minimum...these are meant to be the strongest guys in the country! | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 17:00 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | JC said: 2012 was max squat at esm!? yes. 5 athletes finished on 190 or less that day. and that was including, I hope he doesnt mind me saying, tom hibbert who went on to be champ this year. | ||
| Ben_F | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 17:04 |
 vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Anyhoo... for what it is worth Bob has put 180-200 in the details which means it will more than likely be a max of 190. | ||
| JC | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 17:05 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: yes. 5 athletes finished on 190 or less that day. and that was including, I hope he doesnt mind me saying, tom hibbert who went on to be champ this year. we will never agree so the last I'll say: Tom (as an example) now squats 200x4 belt only...so lets go 220 max (belt only) and being very conservative 230 in wraps He has progressed in 2 years, as has the sport. 180 for reps was a good weight last year/year before (maybe too light if anything), and now with progression of the athletes, 200 is fine for reps | ||
| TomHibbert | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 17:13 |
 Are you winning ? Member 2482, 580 posts | JC said: we will never agree so the last I'll say: Tom (as an example) now squats 200x4 belt only...so lets go 220 max (belt only) and being very conservative 230 in wraps He has progressed in 2 years, as has the sport. 180 for reps was a good weight last year/year before (maybe too light if anything), and now with progression of the athletes, 200 is fine for reps No belt, no wraps...they made me wear clothes, wanted to be as raw as possible Just to add to it, 200kg for reps in a qualifier or final is a good weight for u90kg. I also no repped at London's Strongest Man last year in a squat and finished 2nd...I will be awesome at squats comes April 6th! | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 15-01-2014 @ 17:17 |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: yes. 5 athletes finished on 190 or less that day. and that was including, I hope he doesnt mind me saying, tom hibbert who went on to be champ this year. That was mostly Tom being stupid and doing it completely raw though. | ||