Effective Supplements.
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| AMH_Power |  | Effective Supplements. | 19-11-2019 @ 18:58 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | So, not sure if there's already a thread for this, but I'd like to start a thread for effective (clinically backed) supplements for drug tested athletes. I'll start with what I consider absolute basics and staple: 1. Creatine (anaerobic power output, injury prevention and even anti-depression properties): https://examine.com/supplements/creatine/ 2. Spirulina (power output, counts as about 90000 of your 5 a day, endurance, more effective than most anti-histamines for seasonal allergies, stops fatty liver and helps repair damage, most complete amino profile of ANY food): https://examine.com/supplements/spirulina/ 3. Ashwagandha: (power output, endurance, blood pressure, testosterone, well being/depression) https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/ 4. Zinc Orotate (hormone support, the vast majority of people don't absorb zinc oxide/chelates very well, and certainly not enough in food for competitive athletes) I'd like to point out then when I take these, I don't really notices an increase, but if I don't take them, my training absolutely takes a notable hit... | ||
| slimsim | | ... | 19-11-2019 @ 19:02 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | I did my dissertation on this at uni. At the time (it's going back a few years  ) apart from creatine the only readily available supplement which was shown to have an beneficial effect was HMB.Back then it was bloody expensive and the therapeutic dose to ellicit an effect was something like 3g/day which from a cost perspective would have put most people off. I've no idea of the cost nowadays. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 19-11-2019 @ 20:08 |
 Old Age Presser Member 75, 7734 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Watching this with interest. I take all sorts of legal stuff. Don't know how much good it does but it does no harm and keeps me going. | ||
| PeteHodgson |  | ... | 19-11-2019 @ 21:04 |
 Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Interesting! Watch sales of spirulina soar. AMH is the sole producer of it ya know. ;-) | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 19-11-2019 @ 21:23 |
Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | 50% off at bulkpowders. Literally just ordered spirulina and ashwaganda stuff. I'm desperate! | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 19-11-2019 @ 21:26 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | I never take supplements Though I'm not currently competing so don't see the need for wasting coin I'm tempted to give vitamin T a rattle,as I doubt I will have any more kids I doubt I will compete in drug tested feds again Also I'm approaching 40 in a few years | ||
| danbaseley | | ... | 19-11-2019 @ 22:10 |
 A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | I have found a recognisable effect - ie I know how I feel when I don't take it - on Bromalaine and Curcumin. Both help with inflammation on my knees. | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 10:36 |
 I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2996 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | I've worked with a few supplement companies down the years, and used to be really into it. I always break it down into two main areas, which are not applicable to everyone. 1. Supplements for general health and well being. 2. Supplements for performance enhancing. Both categories are very broad, and come down to each specific person and their needs. The best way to find what someone needs to supplement, is to have bloods taken and results to be analysed and measures taken accordingly. However, most people unless under strict medical supervision, or being a top level athlete, don't go down this route. Many people just take a blanket approach and will take a daily multi vit to cover the bases. I used to read a lot of the work by Charles Poliquin who was a huge supplement guy, and of course then went onto producing his own range etc. I have very mixed opinions about his work these days, but one catch all suggestion which I still think is fairly accurate ans safe, is to try and get the following supplements into ones daily intake... * D3 * Zinc * Magnesium * Omega 3 | ||
| danbaseley | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 15:15 |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | I take Omega 3 also. Can't be a bad thing. I'll check out zinc orotate, as the ZMA I use has, apparently, switched from this type to a chelate. The old stuff used to make 6 hours sleep, feel like 8. | ||
| danbaseley | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 15:23 |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Not a supplement, obviously, but I have actually found some real benefits - especially around problem areas for me, such as lower quad/knee and shoulders - of doing this gua sha/scraping/graston thing. Be warned. It IS UNCOMFORTABLE and after you have finished for the first time, the area will look like some sort of war crime and possibly bruise up a little. But this minimises the next time you do it. | ||
| danbaseley | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 15:23 |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | I use coconut fat as the scraping medium. Works great, smells good. | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 15:30 |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2996 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | AMH_Power said:So, not sure if there's already a thread for this, but I'd like to start a thread for effective (clinically backed) supplements for drug tested athletes. I'll start with what I consider absolute basics and staple: . Where do you stand on the use of caffeine as a performance enhancer? And on that note, have you experimented with any nootropics? | ||
| AMH_Power | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 19:46 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.11.2019 @ 19:47 PM by AMH_Power The_Lone_Wolf said: Where do you stand on the use of caffeine as a performance enhancer? And on that note, have you experimented with any nootropics? ashwaghandha is a nootropic mate. Caffeine absolutely helps fight fatigue but I have a feeling you get accustomed to its benefit. I would imagine holding out until the most important lifting days would have the biggest effect (this is purely my own opinion which is subjective). I've seen some super interesting peptide nootropics which increase intelligence and reduce anxiety, like Semax and Selank alongside some other health benefits. Not sure where they sit on the WADA side but I've not looked at them beyond generic interest. I've seen some crazy stuff on C60(Fullerene) too which increases life span and alters DNA for the better, but only early trials etc. That said, there are compounds that absolutely increase life span (clinically proven), and these are peptides too: Epitalon Thymalin GHK-Cu But this is all fringe science. I'd presume these 3 would be banned by WADA as 'catch all' statements given how they work (gene expression and telomerase activation). Still mega interesting stuff and useful to know if any of us was to ever be terminally ill (I hope this is never the case! But some sort of plan is better than no plan, right?) | ||
| AMH_Power | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 19:48 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | danbaseley said:I use coconut fat as the scraping medium. Works great, smells good. I'm game to give this a go for a few weeks. Will report back. | ||
| AMH_Power | | ... | 20-11-2019 @ 19:50 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | PeteHodgson said:50% off at bulkpowders. Literally just ordered spirulina and ashwaganda stuff. I'm desperate! If you got Spirulina powder, unless you are some sort of twisted psychopath, you'll want to mix it with apple juice. It becomes non-distinct tasting; otherwise it's beyond horrific. Don't say I didn't warn you | ||