Effect on size and strength after 3 weeks no training?

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peanuts		Effect on size and strength after 3 weeks no training?	30-08-2015 @ 20:35
Beef liver and peanuts Member 3618, 222 posts SQ 240, BP 160, DL 280 680.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	As above can a lot of size and strength be lost in this time period

JamesH		...	30-08-2015 @ 21:31
my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305 745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq	Nope. I regularly used to go away for 4 weeks and not train. I found that it took a couple of weeks to get back to where I was. Moreover, it made me hungry to train again.

IrishMarc		...	30-08-2015 @ 21:35
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320 862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq	You'll lose a bit of condition but not much strength you will be back to your training loads in 2-3 weeks.

Billytheold		...	30-08-2015 @ 22:43
Sugdens crazy old person. Member 4936, 7288 posts SQ 270, BP 155, DL 270 695.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	I believe it depends on your age and genetics. I am 52 and I believe get weaker after 3-4 days off. I tried several times to believe it's my imagination but it's not.

ChrisMcCarthy		...	31-08-2015 @ 09:14
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts	Post Edited: 31.08.2015 @ 09:15 AM by ChrisMcCarthy I suppose you could say define "a lot", but in general you are unlikely to lose massive amounts in that time-frame. A lot of it depends on you individually, of course, but jus off the top of my head your current condition will matter (ie. if you are undercooked, overtrained) and also what you will be doing for that three weeks (ie. If you are staying active you will probably be alright - if you are going to be laid up in bed you will be less so....)

1369phil		...	31-08-2015 @ 10:01
doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195 510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq	Surely it depends of starting levels of strength at the time of layoff, total years training and use of PEDs If you'Ve been peaking to an all time high then they'd be a drop off If you've been training for decades and have been in the same "sort of" strength range for years then the drop shouldn't be huge If you stop PEDs and training - well, we've all seen the bodybuilder "after" photos - Gary Strydom was amazing Muscle memory is a silly term - but it is true

Billytheold		...	31-08-2015 @ 10:31
Sugdens crazy old person. Member 4936, 7288 posts SQ 270, BP 155, DL 270 695.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	You are 36. It shouldn't be too bad, but you are not in your 20's. Have you never taken a break from training?


fong		...	31-08-2015 @ 11:18
really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260 550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	i stopped for a year and in 3 months i'm stronger and lighter than ever i think that's a testiment to how lazy i was before though

AMH_Power		...	31-08-2015 @ 11:34
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320 880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	peanuts said:As above can a lot of size and strength be lost in this time period http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/ResidualTraining.html I use this when cycling training stages to ensure none is lost during rest, deload, peaks, time away and/or different training methods.

HUGE_GUY		...	31-08-2015 @ 12:18
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	I lose it very quickly, but because of the size lost. I am usually 73kg without training much and it seems 83/84 is when i stop gaining. I remember watching a show that made a guy wear an arm brace for a few days and he lost a cm from his forearm. He also looked like he never trained beforehand, he was a sports Dr. I took measurements in 2012 before achilles surgery. I was still doing bench and light machine work for the legs. Surgery 3rd Sept. My quads were 63cm. Calves 41cm. 6th Sept. Left quad 60, right 62cm. Right calf 40. 4th Oct. Left quad 57.5, Right 61cm. Left calf 37. Right calf 39 Obviously the smaller you are, the weaker you get. But i can also regain it quite quickly. Then get stuck at 83kg again. Anyone believe in FFMI limit being 25/26 for the most gifted?

HUGE_GUY		...	31-08-2015 @ 12:42
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	AMH_Power said: http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/ResidualTraining.html I use this when cycling training stages to ensure none is lost during rest, deload, peaks, time away and/or different training methods. Just had a look at this. 5 days for speed? Weirdly my speed is always good even with a big period of training off, specifically power clean and squat speed,just at a lesser weight. Even my sprint speed seems to stay for 2-3 weeks as long as i keep strength up.

AMH_Power		...	31-08-2015 @ 12:43
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320 880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 31.08.2015 @ 12:44 PM by AMH_Power HUGE_GUY said:I lose it very quickly, but because of the size lost. I am usually 73kg without training much and it seems 83/84 is when i stop gaining. I remember watching a show that made a guy wear an arm brace for a few days and he lost a cm from his forearm. He also looked like he never trained beforehand, he was a sports Dr. I took measurements in 2012 before achilles surgery. I was still doing bench and light machine work for the legs. Surgery 3rd Sept. My quads were 63cm. Calves 41cm. 6th Sept. Left quad 60, right 62cm. Right calf 40. 4th Oct. Left quad 57.5, Right 61cm. Left calf 37. Right calf 39 Obviously the smaller you are, the weaker you get. But i can also regain it quite quickly. Then get stuck at 83kg again. Anyone believe in FFMI limit being 25/26 for the most gifted? I don't buy into it. Mine is 27.1 at 100kg 20% bf. Thats from a set of Tanita scales. I am porky...so i can only presume if I were to clean my diet up I could influence it better. Life time drug free What about you?

HUGE_GUY		...	31-08-2015 @ 12:51
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	AMH_Power said: I don't buy into it. Mine is 27.1 at 100kg 20% bf. Thats from a set of Tanita scales. I am porky...so i can only presume if I were to clean my diet up I could influence it better. Life time drug free What about you? At my very best 6'0 83.5kg Gym rats tell me i'm 7-8% fat (whilst giving themselves 3%!), 10% i would say. This gives 22.6 FFMI I haven't looked into this much though, only came across it last week on youtube. Does seem a little flawed going by bodybuilders long ago who probably never even had a zinc tablet.

AMH_Power		...	31-08-2015 @ 13:01
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320 880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 31.08.2015 @ 13:01 PM by AMH_Power HUGE_GUY said: At my very best 6'0 83.5kg Gym rats tell me i'm 7-8% fat (whilst giving themselves 3%!), 10% i would say. This gives 22.6 FFMI I haven't looked into this much though, only came across it last week on youtube. Does seem a little flawed going by bodybuilders long ago who probably never even had a zinc tablet. I think sugar plays a large role. The amount of the anabolic hormone insulin may play a part in this, given that we consume s**t loads of sugar as a nation. Obviously when timing macros right (like high gi carbs post training) we can get the positives of insulin but not the negatives etc.

HUGE_GUY		...	31-08-2015 @ 13:14
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	Post Edited: 31.08.2015 @ 13:14 PM by HUGE_GUY AMH_Power said: I think sugar plays a large role. The amount of the anabolic hormone insulin may play a part in this, given that we consume st loads of sugar as a nation. Obviously when timing macros right (like high gi carbs post training) we can get the positives of insulin but not the negatives etc. Popping out to get gallons of milk! Maybe a reason i also lose so much is because i come off all supps and don't eat any meat when i don't train. I usually have stty hard jobs as well. 90% of my protein is pea protein so i guess i would drop off quicker than most. I quickly get back to my normal self with the 12 inch guns. Who am i kidding, they are always 12 inches.

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