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WILLSAN | ... | 05-05-2020 @ 18:29 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | unit94 said:Also is his book that bad? I've heard it is but I kind of want to read it out of morbid curiosity. got it as a present, skimmed it and decided to bin it. https://i.giphy.com/media/10PcMWwtZSYk2k/giphy.webp | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 05-05-2020 @ 18:34 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | unit94 said:I think Ed will win as he'll commit to it more than Thor, I could see him losing more weight than Thor which wl probably be a very important factor in how it goes. Also is his book that bad? I've heard it is but I kind of want to read it out of morbid curiosity. Also also, I'd fight them both at the same time for the amount of money they're getting! Been dicsussing this a fair bit (best bit of a fight like this because the fight will be s**te) I think they would be best served giving up lifting, dropping the gear and taking up cardio and boxing for the full training time. Maybe do some kettlebells or some s**t for a bit of strength training to have the best chance of success. I can see this being thor's undoing as he might have one foot in the strongman world (even if it is way reduced training) and one in the boxing world. Where as Ed is retired so should be able to go ham with the prep. Strength and power isn't going to be a limiting factor for these guys, skill and conditioning is. So they should focus on that and only that. Also they should be looking to dropping 60kg+ of bodyweight, which of course they won't. | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 05-05-2020 @ 18:35 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: got it as a present, skimmed it and decided to bin it. https://i.giphy.com/media/10PcMWwtZSYk2k/giphy.webp I think I would legit rather have someone slap me in the face than have to read Eddie's ghost written book. | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 05-05-2020 @ 18:36 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | billynomates said:I feel like a lot of people complaining are still gonna watch the fight For sure I am going to be making a weekend of it with my mates! | ||
unit94 | ... | 05-05-2020 @ 19:25 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10430 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | IrishMarc said: Been dicsussing this a fair bit (best bit of a fight like this because the fight will be s**te) I think they would be best served giving up lifting, dropping the gear and taking up cardio and boxing for the full training time. Maybe do some kettlebells or some s**t for a bit of strength training to have the best chance of success. I can see this being thor's undoing as he might have one foot in the strongman world (even if it is way reduced training) and one in the boxing world. Where as Ed is retired so should be able to go ham with the prep. Strength and power isn't going to be a limiting factor for these guys, skill and conditioning is. So they should focus on that and only that. Also they should be looking to dropping 60kg+ of bodyweight, which of course they won't. I agree with you, even with 60kg off Thor he'd still be 145kg which is a bit big to be moving around a ring but I doubt he'll lose that much, I can see him coming in about 170kg and just not being able to move for very long | ||
luki | ... | 05-05-2020 @ 22:03 | |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 05.05.2020 @ 22:34 PM by luki PaulSavage said: Yes I'd have to give it to Thor simply because videos have shown ed to have basically zero boxing ability. I don't know how to embed but https://youtu.be/9aIUrPrzEwU against a pro yes and former English champion but this isn't exactly Mayweather either has 8 losses and is a 140lb lightweight. Ed may as well of been a punching bag, doesn't do anything and gets completely t**tted. No foot movement, s**t gaurd, no head movement. The only positive would be he must have a decent chin to take so many unanswered, undefended shots and not get wobbled though did look shook up a one point. This is of course from a 140lb man though not a 440lb. If thor can learn any kind of boxing skill at all he should win, just learning a simple jab he should be able to win this with one hand. I’d say Eddie was flinching away from punches. Coach stuck him in a ring with a whippet who was going to land, but not have the power to rock Eddie. Give him a bit of experience being hit and learn not to turn away. Thor won’t be that fast or have 12oz gloves to slip through the guard so easy. You’d imagine thor has fight training from GOT. Good excuse for Eddie to loose some weight now he’s retired. Boxing is a skill anyone can learn. My money would be on whom ever gets in the gym and trains 3 times a week, reach or no. | ||
Nimble | ... | 06-05-2020 @ 02:36 | |
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 06.05.2020 @ 05:04 AM by Nimble IrishMarc said: Been dicsussing this a fair bit (best bit of a fight like this because the fight will be s**te) I think they would be best served giving up lifting, dropping the gear and taking up cardio and boxing for the full training time. Maybe do some kettlebells or some s**t for a bit of strength training to have the best chance of success. I can see this being thor's undoing as he might have one foot in the strongman world (even if it is way reduced training) and one in the boxing world. Where as Ed is retired so should be able to go ham with the prep. Strength and power isn't going to be a limiting factor for these guys, skill and conditioning is. So they should focus on that and only that. Also they should be looking to dropping 60kg+ of bodyweight, which of course they won't. I think this is right. They could train one very light set of deadlifts and one very light set of bench press (50% x 3 reps?) every other week for the next year and they'd still be stronger than they need to be. I'd be interested in what a ~110kg Eddie and a ~130kg Thor looked like, but I can't see either of them cutting as much weight as they should. Surprised Thor is missing 2 WSMs and at least 1 Arnolds at the peak of his career for this but I guess that's the difference between a guaranteed million+ and a possible ~400k (?) if he won everything including any WUSs. Lastly, I'm just hoping big John Fury calls out the winner and gets to knock them out early 2022. That would be pretty funny. | ||
DeanW92 | ... | 06-05-2020 @ 08:59 | |
Member 4496, 1446 posts SQ 240, BP 200, DL 300740.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | That video of eddie was from 2012 i think? He was lighter there than he has been since retiring, 165 is the lightest he has been since retiring and was back up at 175 not long since. I don't think eddie will be any lighter than 150 and Thor about 170 | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 06-05-2020 @ 11:25 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | I'd fight everyone on sugden at the same time for a million quid. | ||
AdamT | ... | 06-05-2020 @ 11:34 | |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | LessThanLuke said:I'd fight everyone on sugden at the same time for a million quid. f**king right I always laugh when mma fans say conor was brave for stepping into the unknown against Floyd He had 100million reasons to!!!! | ||
drex50 | ... | 06-05-2020 @ 11:59 | |
It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts | Nimble said: I'd be interested in what a ~110kg Eddie and a ~130kg Thor looked like, but I can't see either of them cutting as much weight as they should. They would rather prefer to die instead of being so light, you know. I am just curious or maybe not that much, but i guess these 30yo athletes are on blood pressure medications already. You can't be 130+ kg massive drugs user for 10-15 years and not suffer from high blood pressure. It would be interesting to know what blood pressure prevention protocol pro-athletes follow. And don't come up with the "genetics freaks" bulls**t. | ||
Martin1956 | ... | 06-05-2020 @ 12:28 | |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7711 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Samthepigman said:I don't really get why people are assuming Thor and Eddie are gonna rock up like they would to WSM. They are going to spend the next 12 months training hard for it. You've seen how hard they've trained and dedicated they're lives to getting stronger. This is probably the biggest single pay out either of them have had. It's enough money for the average person to dedicate the next 15 years of they're lives training for based on the average earnings of someone from the UK. I'd imagine there will be a big bonus for the winner also. They're gonna take this seriously regardless if they haven't trained in boxing before. Anybody with half decent athleticism with the proper team behind them and enough training time would put on a good show. IMO I'm sorry, I can't agree. Look at CM Punk. Spent two years training for UFC and got wiped out in his first match. And look at when Ngannou (sp) fought Miocic - heavily muscled, MMA trained, under the 266 limit, and he was blowing out of his arse by the end of round one. These two won't be in as good condition as he was. | ||
Samthepigman | ... | 08-05-2020 @ 20:12 | |
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | I still think it'll be worth a watch | ||
danbaseley | ... | 09-05-2020 @ 08:27 | |
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4468 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | It's going to be a dog's dinner. Eddie looks a little punch shy - but just about everyone is, at first, when you suddenly realise that you are in deep-water and have to accept getting hit - so I imagine Thor will be too. The biggest problem, is that it is two mah-oosive dudes, who I can't see losing the 150lbs needed to be competent - who will blow-up in 30 seconds. I honestly think the biggest issue is one of them collapsing on the floor, gasping for breath in about 90 seconds. | ||
Martin1956 | ... | 09-05-2020 @ 15:39 | |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7711 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | danbaseley said:It's going to be a dog's dinner. Eddie looks a little punch shy - but just about everyone is, at first, when you suddenly realise that you are in deep-water and have to accept getting hit - so I imagine Thor will be too. The biggest problem, is that it is two mah-oosive dudes, who I can't see losing the 150lbs needed to be competent - who will blow-up in 30 seconds. I honestly think the biggest issue is one of them collapsing on the floor, gasping for breath in about 90 seconds. This... | ||