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Fakeinjury17Icon...14-09-2018 @ 10:39 
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matthewvc said:The difficulty in getting TRT in this country is another example of how male-specific health takes a distinct back seat (women get estrogen replacement with little hassle). This is despite a whole raft of health issues associated with chronically low testosterone. The difference is enormous between here and US, where testosterone (and gh) are prescribed like candy to older men, even those without any real hypogonadism but just looking to feel youthful again.


I agree. Watched a couple of documentaries where TRT does not seem to carry the stigma it does here. I know itís self inflicted but it would be good to be able to have a sensible dialogue with a doctor.
BillytheoldIcon...14-09-2018 @ 11:39 
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Oh thatís why. When I compete everyone in my weightoutclaased looks so much larger than me. I always ask my opponents how are you so built. Oh I guess they added more weight to an event. Oh no veggie to them itís only a little more weight itís light they say. Oh well. Compete against yourself or find a reliable demon to get you some big poison and feel better when they tabulate your totals.
RickIcon...14-09-2018 @ 12:19 
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Fakeinjury17 said:
Understood and apologies.


None necessary, you've done nothing wrong in any way.

AdamT said:
What do you teach?


Maths (and the extended project qualification).
AdamTIcon...14-09-2018 @ 14:37 
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Rick said:
Maths (and the extended project qualification).


Nice one. My brother teaches chemistry and maths. He likes teaching.

If I had of behaved at school, I think I would of liked to teach.
SupertrampIcon...14-09-2018 @ 16:53 
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I'm rubbish at maths had to work really hard, had a tutor and managed to earn myself B Gcse. I can't remember most of it and have considered enrolling in a refresher course because as I get older I honestly find it fascinating.
scruffmcbuffIcon...14-09-2018 @ 20:19 
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Since my last comp in august last year ive transitioned from a 24 stone roidsmith to clean and still 24 stone.

Ive lost no weight not a single biscuit. And before a horrendous car crash in june i was still deadlifting 300+KG and benching 140kg for reps.

It wasnt easy. And i did crash HARD. I had to use a specific route of PCT. (Which seeing as our Overseer Rich pointed out rules ill leave out details) But.... it worked. I look a bit softer and my traps no longer touch my ears.
No more pip is nice and i dont sweat out a shirt before ive left the house anymore.

Id probably go back on one day. Who knows!
stephen9069Icon...14-09-2018 @ 20:49 
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I used in the past many many moons ago I wont ever use again unless im prescribed trt, I have no desire to.

I also stopped drinking a long time ago and haven't had a drop in nearly 7 years.
matthewvcIcon...14-09-2018 @ 21:27 
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Fakeinjury17 said:
I agree. Watched a couple of documentaries where TRT does not seem to carry the stigma it does here. I know itís self inflicted but it would be good to be able to have a sensible dialogue with a doctor.


Plenty of far more serious conditions that donít attract such stigma are very much Ďself inflictedí in terms of poor lifestyle choices:

Type 2 diabetes, high BP, cardiovascular disease, Lung/oesophageal cancers, cirrhosis, pancreatic disease and so on.

Even so, plenty of men with no history of steroid use simply suffer from age related hypogonadism (aka male menopause). Considering how cheap test is (legit pharma grade production costs, not big roryís supplies from Ďgetjacked labsí Grin) itís nonsensical given the increased risk of other costly conditions in later life as a result of chronically low testosterone levels.
Fakeinjury17Icon...14-09-2018 @ 22:44 
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scruffmcbuff said:Since my last comp in august last year ive transitioned from a 24 stone roidsmith to clean and still 24 stone.

Ive lost no weight not a single biscuit. And before a horrendous car crash in june i was still deadlifting 300+KG and benching 140kg for reps.

It wasnt easy. And i did crash HARD. I had to use a specific route of PCT. (Which seeing as our Overseer Rich pointed out rules ill leave out details) But.... it worked. I look a bit softer and my traps no longer touch my ears.
No more pip is nice and i dont sweat out a shirt before ive left the house anymore.

Id probably go back on one day. Who knows!


Credit to you and it obviously shows it can be done and my fears are very likely unnecessary.

The end to random sweating sounds a very decent side of clean training!
Fakeinjury17Icon...14-09-2018 @ 22:45 
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AdamT said:
Nice one. My brother teaches chemistry and maths. He likes teaching.
If I had of behaved at school, I think I would of liked to teach.


Never too late, Iíve just switched to teaching following 12 years doing something very different. Daunting but worth it.
scruffmcbuffIcon...15-09-2018 @ 17:51 
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Fakeinjury17 said:
Credit to you and it obviously shows it can be done and my fears are very likely unnecessary.
The end to random sweating sounds a very decent side of clean training!



My hand was forced to a degree so that helped but i understand your fears. Can be done tho mate.
Feel free to drop me a PM for any questions or to arrange a brawl at a train station of mutual convinence.
Fakeinjury17Icon...23-09-2018 @ 16:08 
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scruffmcbuff said:
My hand was forced to a degree so that helped but i understand your fears. Can be done tho mate.
Feel free to drop me a PM for any questions or to arrange a brawl at a train station of mutual convinence.


Thank you mate appreciated re the questions.

Re the train station brawl, sounds brilliant. I canít fight but will just claim I won easy on Facebook.
Funky_monkeyIcon...24-09-2018 @ 14:23 
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Having the testosterone of 10 men injected weekly is "off"?

I had a dabble, but nowhere near 20ml a week, more similar to your "i'm now clean" dosage. Side effects? I am now weaker, less hungry, and don't spank the monkey about 3 times a day. Only 2 now.
IainKendrickIcon...24-09-2018 @ 17:37 
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Fakeinjury17 said:
Re the train station brawl, sounds brilliant. I canít fight but will just claim I won easy on Facebook.


Now that is train station fighting champion material right there! A purest.
Fakeinjury17Icon...25-09-2018 @ 15:45 
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Post Edited: 25.09.2018 @ 15:46 PM by Fakeinjury17
Funky_monkey said:Having the testosterone of 10 men injected weekly is "off"?

I had a dabble, but nowhere near 20ml a week, more similar to your "i'm now clean" dosage. Side effects? I am now weaker, less hungry, and don't spank the monkey about 3 times a day. Only 2 now.


Apologies if it came across wrong, wasnít claiming to be clean now just not as stupid as I was. Sides when stupid included feeling ill all the time, wasting all my money and having a stroke.

I came 3rd at a novice competition though and won a 15 quid bag of protein so it was all worth it.

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