Anyone here Carb Backload?

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CarlJ		Anyone here Carb Backload?	09-03-2014 @ 21:35
Member 5148, 27 posts	My current see-food diet is doing wonders for my strength but not for my waistline, I'm getting the point where I feel I should reign it in a bit. I'm not one for 'diets' however a lot of people seem to have successfully incorporated backloading to gain strength and remain lean/lose fat. Has anyone any experience? Also, how important is the "initial phase" where you basically go keto over 10 days?? I work in Police Custody and really need to stay switched on, I regularly go from sitting on my ass, to a full on wrestling match and I know from previous experience that any more than 2-3 days carb free and I'm about as much use as the proverbial chocolate fireguard!

VanillaGorilla		...	09-03-2014 @ 21:43
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts	From the sound of it you need the very simple approach of simply eating carbs before and after training, avoiding crap processed food and sugars, and getting plenty of quality protein and fat throughout the day.

CarlJ		...	09-03-2014 @ 21:47
Member 5148, 27 posts	VanillaGorilla said:From the sound of it you need the very simple approach of simply eating carbs before and after training, avoiding crap processed food and sugars, and getting plenty of quality protein and fat throughout the day. Cheers, So are you suggesting limiting Carbs to pre/post workout only? If so what is the best approach on rest days?

VanillaGorilla		...	09-03-2014 @ 21:54
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts	CarlJ said: Cheers, So are you suggesting limiting Carbs to pre/post workout only? If so what is the best approach on rest days? Yea, thats what I do at the moment, dropping a little fat. Carbs to fuel and refuel. Obviously you'll vet some low levels of carbs from veg etc throughout the day but not as a main constituent. For example: Eggs, mushrooms, coffee. Nuts, oats and whey Train Malto and whey Chicken rice and veg Salmon and veg Fairly simple. I currently only have carbs post workout as I'm dropping to a different weight category, but they'll soon be added back in. On a non training day I would just have one good carb meal.

CarlJ		...	09-03-2014 @ 22:04
Member 5148, 27 posts	Sounds good, I'll look at eliminating anything processed and eating carbs pre/post wo only. Hopefully I can do so and not halt progress, I have first comp in May (First Timers at Bodypower). Muchas gracias for the input

VanillaGorilla		...	09-03-2014 @ 22:07
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts	CarlJ said:Sounds good, I'll look at eliminating anything processed and eating carbs pre/post wo only. Hopefully I can do so and not halt progress, I have first comp in May (First Timers at Bodypower). Muchas gracias for the input No problem mate. Just be careful your carbs don't drop too low, probably still going to want around 25% of cals from carbs.

Mon		...	17-03-2014 @ 19:46
Quite a funny Mon Member 371, 186 posts SQ 210, BP 172.5, DL 250 632.5 kgs @ 109kgs UnEq	I see and often use carb backloading in a more simple way: - Limit carbs in the morning, eating an abundance of protein and fats. - Introduce carbs later, either around mid-morning or midday on training days (whichever is after training) or just whenever later on if I don't train. - Eat an abundance of carbs and very few fats later in the day and in the evening. For me, mixing carbs and fats is more of an issue. Lean burger with cheese, bacon and cheese omelette, steak and eggs - fine. Weetabix, milk and honey, whey and oats, fruit, chicken and oats - fine. All the tasty stuff - pizza, peanut butter and cheese sarnies, roast potatoes in beef dripping with pulled pork - bad.


shanejer		...	17-03-2014 @ 19:48
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Mon said:I see and often use carb backloading in a more simple way: - Limit carbs in the morning, eating an abundance of protein and fats. - Introduce carbs later, either around mid-morning or midday on training days (whichever is after training) or just whenever later on if I don't train. - Eat an abundance of carbs and very few fats later in the day and in the evening. For me, mixing carbs and fats is more of an issue. Lean burger with cheese, bacon and cheese omelette, steak and eggs - fine. Weetabix, milk and honey, whey and oats, fruit, chicken and oats - fine. All the tasty stuff - pizza, peanut butter and cheese sarnies, roast potatoes in beef dripping with pulled pork - bad. So you don't carb backload ......

minibig1		...	17-03-2014 @ 19:51
Novice level log, open level deadlift Member 857, 2699 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 360 790.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Lol Shane I carb backload and have done for a small while, definately rate it but Iv used it for weight gain rather than fat loss

robocop		...	17-03-2014 @ 22:30
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 365 1040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq	Post Edited: 17.03.2014 @ 22:31 PM by robocop I have been on carb backload for nearly 6 weeks after a crazy bulking phase where I went up to 142kg I love the diet I wish I done it years ago I feel ten times more healthy and my s**tting has went from about 6 times a day to 1 maybe 2 In the last 6 weeks I have went from 142kg at 22% bf to 135kg at 14% bf and I have lost no strength at all I would suggest getting kiefers book and reading it cover to cover twice before you start as so many people who have not got great results from it have been doing it wrong I am confident I can be 136kg (300lb in old money) and single digit bf in 8 weeks

JohnGym		...	17-03-2014 @ 22:32
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5 625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	robocop said: I am confident I can be 136kg (300lb in old money) and single digit bf in 8 weeks Bigger than Ronnie Coleman and Dorian yates. Wowser. Some going that mate.

robocop		...	17-03-2014 @ 22:36
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 365 1040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq	JohnGym said: Bigger than Ronnie Coleman and Dorian yates. Wowser. Some going that mate. Tbf I am about 4 inch taller than both and I am talking 9% these guys where on stage at 3%!! But i am only shooting facts to show my results from the diet I know I have only been using it for 6 weeks but I literally eat s**te all night and wake up leaner and leaner!!

JohnGym		...	17-03-2014 @ 22:40
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5 625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	robocop said: Tbf I am about 4 inch taller than both and I am talking 9% these guys where on stage at 3%!! But i am only shooting facts to show my results from the diet I know I have only been using it for 6 weeks but I literally eat s**te all night and wake up leaner and leaner!! That's class mate. Solid effort. Will be interesting to see how far you can take it. I tried it and just ended up fatter. (I didn't mean my other post to sound like a piss take, which in re-reading it does).

robocop		...	17-03-2014 @ 22:47
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 365 1040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq	That's the internet for ya though we all read things in different connotations But i never took it that way mate I have never been super lean I tend to hold fat in my muffin tops and lower back, even on low carb diets and even on gh I still held fat that would not shift. Last 6 weeks though I have went from fattest I have ever been (I did this as I was worried I was gonna loose too much bw) to pretty much leanest I have ever been. trying to do it for 15 years myself but 6 weeks on this diet I have had more success.

Cuddles		...	18-03-2014 @ 06:43
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	robocop said:I have been on carb backload for nearly 6 weeks after a crazy bulking phase where I went up to 142kg I love the diet I wish I done it years ago I feel ten times more healthy and my s**tting has went from about 6 times a day to 1 maybe 2 In the last 6 weeks I have went from 142kg at 22% bf to 135kg at 14% bf and I have lost no strength at all I would suggest getting kiefers book and reading it cover to cover twice before you start as so many people who have not got great results from it have been doing it wrong I am confident I can be 136kg (300lb in old money) and single digit bf in 8 weeks You do realise that involves putting on a kilo of muscle a week for 8 weeks whilst also losing 6.7kg of fat? Wowzers.

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