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FatpeteIcon...30-12-2019 @ 21:13 
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Post Edited: 30.12.2019 @ 21:13 PM by Fatpete
Monday, 30th December, start 15:15

Very sleepy boy this morning, didn't crawl from my pit until almost ten. So rather a short day.

Bench, very raw
20 x 15
20 x 15
20 x 15
50 x 5
60 x 4
70 x 3
80 x 2
90 x 1
95 x 1
100 x 1
105 x 1
110 x 1
115 x 1
120 x 1
125 x 1
The main difference between this and last week, when I topped out at 115 was that this week all three figure weights were handed off to me whereas last week they were not. So now you have it, for me a handoff is worth ten kilos.
The 120 would have failed in a comp as I raised my left heel but the 125 would have passed. It took a while though and it was clear that there was no more there today.
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2019 @ 09:05 
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December 31st, day 365, tomorrow is January, day 1 of a new year, so far we are on safe ground.

Earlier, on the radio, the presenter referred to this as being the last year of the decade and tomorrow was the first year of the new.

His argument would appear to be that we have had 10 years of years where the third digit was a "1" and that tomorrow we enter a period of the third digit being a "2". The "twenties" if you will.

Now years were numbered retrospectively in the early 1700s, they picked the year when they thought that Christ was born and all before that were numbered backwards, 1, 2, 3, 4 BC etc and since then 1, 2, 3 AD etc. This means, and this is the important bit, was that all decades, centuries etc have to commence with a "1" and the end

"1" was therefore the start of the first decade and "10" the end of it, "11" therefore would have been the start of the second decade.

It therefore must surely follow that 2020 will be the last year of the old decade and 2021 the start of the new one. This also means of course that the millennium celebrations of 1999/2000 were all held a year early.

I begrudgingly realize that language is a living, growing thing that can change with usage. But surely maths is maths and we can't bugger about with that however much we would like to.

Your opinions are of value to me.
RickIcon...31-12-2019 @ 11:48 
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It doesn't really matter whether the alleged first decade started with 0 or 1, since (as you say) the numbers were introduced far later and were, in any case, wrong. Further, although the historians’ convention is that there is no year zero, this is only really defensible if you’re completely mathematically illiterate. So I say go with the emotional argument, since that is the only level on which any of it matters, and name decades by their tens digit.
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2019 @ 13:31 
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Rick said:although the historians’ convention is that there is no year zero, this is only really defensible if you’re completely mathematically illiterate.


Yup, that's me. Too many blows to the head in school I guess
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2019 @ 13:35 
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Rick said:So I say go with the emotional argument, since that is the only level on which any of it matters, and name decades by their tens digit.


Good point, very well made.

Interestingly they looked at newspapers from 31-12-1899 and 01-01-1900 and there was no mention of the new century, but the same papers on 31-12-1900 and 01-01-1901 were full of it. Fast forward 100 years and everything had changed. When did that change I wonder ?
Martin1956Icon...31-12-2019 @ 14:48 
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I agree with you for mathematical pureness. However if you think back a century, we refer to the 'twenties, 'thirties, 'forties, etc., and no one thinks of say 1930 as being in the 'twenties. So I reckon both are 'right'.
RickIcon...31-12-2019 @ 18:11 
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I congratulate you on your apostrophes, Mr Flett.
Martin1956Icon...31-12-2019 @ 19:23 
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Rick said:I congratulate you on your apostrophes, Mr Flett.


Haha, cheers Rick, see you in Horncastle. Happy
RickIcon...31-12-2019 @ 19:36 
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Cheers Happy. The roster as printed has me free for the bench (and refereeing non-stop on Sunday morning, which is a big ask), but I imagine that'll change on the day.
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2019 @ 20:02 
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Rick said:I congratulate you on your apostrophes, Mr Flett.


I'll drink to that as well, well played Sir
FatpeteIcon...31-12-2019 @ 20:08 
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Martin1956 said:I agree with you for mathematical pureness. However if you think back a century, we refer to the 'twenties, 'thirties, 'forties, etc., and no one thinks of say 1930 as being in the 'twenties. So I reckon both are 'right'.


I can't really argue with the common sense approach. A good and cogent argument very well made, and indeed if I were to say that something happened to me in my thirties I would mean 30 to 39 and certainly not 31 to 40, but I was born at the age of 0 and not 1.

It's the retrospective numbering that the pedant in me finds a difficult obstacle to get over, my teachers would have tortured me for stuff like this. I struggle over things that others manage with ease. I know it does really matter and that you and Rick have spoken nothing but sense and I would dearly love to be able to just let it go.

And yet, it seems I cannot

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RickIcon...01-01-2020 @ 10:37 
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Just to cheer you up, this is actually legitimately the third day of 2020.



So why worry Happy
FatpeteIcon...01-01-2020 @ 11:11 
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Excellent Rick - I'm happy
FatpeteIcon...01-01-2020 @ 18:18 
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Wednesday, 1st January, start 15:15

Deadlift, sleeves on, slippers on, no belt
60 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5
80 x 3
100 x 3
110 x 3
120 x 3
130 x 3
140 x 3
150 x 3
160 x 3
170 x 3
180 x 3
Quite cold tonight, all these were really quite enjoyable, things should pick up when I am back in the routine of work and that starts tomorrow. Weightlifters aplenty tonight and either I am getting old or they are getting noisier.
matthewvcIcon...03-01-2020 @ 16:46 
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Fatpete said:December 31st, day 365, tomorrow is January, day 1 of a new year, so far we are on safe ground.

Earlier, on the radio, the presenter referred to this as being the last year of the decade and tomorrow was the first year of the new.

His argument would appear to be that we have had 10 years of years where the third digit was a "1" and that tomorrow we enter a period of the third digit being a "2". The "twenties" if you will.

Now years were numbered retrospectively in the early 1700s, they picked the year when they thought that Christ was born and all before that were numbered backwards, 1, 2, 3, 4 BC etc and since then 1, 2, 3 AD etc. This means, and this is the important bit, was that all decades, centuries etc have to commence with a "1" and the end

"1" was therefore the start of the first decade and "10" the end of it, "11" therefore would have been the start of the second decade.

It therefore must surely follow that 2020 will be the last year of the old decade and 2021 the start of the new one. This also means of course that the millennium celebrations of 1999/2000 were all held a year early.

I begrudgingly realize that language is a living, growing thing that can change with usage. But surely maths is maths and we can't bugger about with that however much we would like to.

Your opinions are of value to me.


The computer scientist in me says decades should be zero indexed - 0 to 9.. and that the root of our calendar, Jesus , was born 0AD (although it’s generally thought his birth was actually around 2024 years ago circa 4BC)

not that this is currently an issue out here in Thailand - it is 2563 here (buddhist calendar) we have 6 more controversy free years yet

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