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nailsIcon...22-04-2014 @ 19:14 
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my wood got all bloody
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Wow that was a great read Aaron, you've certainly got the old grey matter sparking again. Congrats on the embedding PB Grin
AMH_PowerIcon...22-04-2014 @ 22:34 
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nails said:Wow that was a great read Aaron, you've certainly got the old grey matter sparking again. Congrats on the embedding PB Grin


Thanks mate, it's when I get the YouTube link from my YouTube account its f**ked up, I have to open the video from a YouTube search to get the right format.
HeavySingleIcon...22-04-2014 @ 22:50 
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AMH_Power said:It wouldn't let me write my full reply...

Here it is in a word document.

http://www.angelware.co.uk/amh.doc

Cheers


Fascinating read. Very intelligent and makes a lot of sense
AMH_PowerIcon...23-04-2014 @ 17:01 
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Post Edited: 23.04.2014 @ 17:05 PM by AMH_Power
Todays session, Week 2 Deadlift:

60kg x 5
100 x 5 doubles

210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 5

Ham curls 3x8

Cheers

edit. Mong, put the wrong numbers in.
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AMH_PowerIcon...23-04-2014 @ 17:07 
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kirkynick said:So on the one deadlift session a week you don't do the 80% doubles, but use the 5x5 etc method?


You can do either, but stick with it. I usually do one for a full cycle, then the other.

If you are gifted in lower back recovery and are naturally good at it, you could do both, no different to squat and bench... this would be too much for me though.

If your deadlift is sluggish I'd recommend the 80% day, if its quick but general conditioning is bad with it, I recommend the regulation day..

Cheers
SamthepigmanIcon...23-04-2014 @ 17:22 
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Nice deads

Straps or not?
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AMH_PowerIcon...23-04-2014 @ 17:31 
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Post Edited: 23.04.2014 @ 17:37 PM by AMH_Power
Samthepigman said:Nice deads

Straps or not?



Cheers bud,

never touched straps in my life mate
AMH_PowerIcon...23-04-2014 @ 17:32 
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kirkynick said:
Thanks for clearing that up.


anytime mate
CJRIcon...23-04-2014 @ 17:58 
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Very good doc that you typed up, so thanks!

I had a question on the part where you mentioned about certain lifts lagging. For example failing 4x4 on the bench but succeeding in the 4x4 on squat, you mentioned certain protocols such as bridge deloads or taking smaller jumps between weeks. Why is it important that approximate volume stays in line across all the lifts? What would be the problem of just letting one lift fail sooner than the other e.g. for a particular week squat may be on the 3x3 phase whilst bench is still back in the 5x5s phase.

Hope that makes sense and thanks in advance for answering!
AMH_PowerIcon...23-04-2014 @ 18:13 
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CJR said:Very good doc that you typed up, so thanks!

I had a question on the part where you mentioned about certain lifts lagging. For example failing 4x4 on the bench but succeeding in the 4x4 on squat, you mentioned certain protocols such as bridge deloads or taking smaller jumps between weeks. Why is it important that approximate volume stays in line across all the lifts? What would be the problem of just letting one lift fail sooner than the other e.g. for a particular week squat may be on the 3x3 phase whilst bench is still back in the 5x5s phase.

Hope that makes sense and thanks in advance for answering!


Really good question, and hopefully I will give you a good answer:

The simple reason, is that if it's for a meet, you want the lifts to hit 1x1 at the same time, and if you finally hit the 1x1 with bench for example, what will you now do for bench while squat is still in 3x3?...

The complex reason is that when you are lifting in volume, the main demand is replenishing adenosine-triphospahte (ATP), ready for the next session... which typically will take 2 days (varies on how much volume and the individual).

When you start approaching 90% plus you start producing 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) (also known to me and you as Serotonin), which is what ultimately leads to CNS fatigue. Practicing in this zone alone is fine for periods, as the adrenal cortex will learn to produce the hormones and corticosteroids to deal with serotonin and some cortisol biproducts.

However, when in both states (ie, ATP depleted AND excessive 5-HT) the recovery isn't additive; its multiplicative.

So what would take 2-3 days to recover, becomes 4-9 days... and can quickly lead to general s**t state... hence a strong reason why I don't do much accessory whatsoever (and in contrast, why some people do f**k loads and wonder why they don't gain).

in summary, as much as I'd like to say 'it's just to keep s**t tidy', it's actually more about efficiency...even if it means a lift easing up a session or two to allow your weaknesses to catch up.
CJRIcon...23-04-2014 @ 18:22 
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Appreciate the reply Aaron, makes sense!
IainKendrickIcon...23-04-2014 @ 18:38 
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ATP, as measured directly via, changes little during exercise of any intensity. It certainly doesn't take days to recover ATP concentrations. Normally by the time a muscle biopsy has been taken, the sample processed and frozen it's prob back to baseline [ATP]

Happy

Of course loads of ATP is metabolised during exercise and indeed ADP is one of the main metabolites that the body is trying desperately to buffer.

Anyhoo.... and more importantly than irrelevant science...

Love what you have done with RMR/RSR type work combined with the simple linear progression stuff. Right up my street.
93hopkinsonrIcon...23-04-2014 @ 18:48 
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I appreciate your theory but if you did assistance all the time shouldn't your body recover the same? And therefore ultimately become stronger

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