A Question of Weight

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samue1son		A Question of Weight	13-02-2014 @ 13:50
Member 4416, 1369 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240 625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq	Okay, so the summary of this is going to be = Absolute Strength is best, do we all agree? Irrespective of impressive pound for pound strength. I notice quite a few guys who stay in a weight class for X amount of time and lift big, then eventually just pop up in open weights competing against large folk. Is this a method of somekind? Somehow keeping strength to weight ratio at its maximum before piling on weight, is that better? Why don't you just simply from the outset start piling on the weight if it contributes to your absolute strength & if absolute strength is your goal anyway?

JC		...	13-02-2014 @ 13:56
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	I dont give a flying s**te about lb for lb strength Whoever lifts the most is the strongest, irresepctive of weight IMO (that doesnt mean that something cant be very impressive when you consider someones BW)

Wiegieboard		...	13-02-2014 @ 14:13
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190 502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	To me the athletic carryover of strength which is whats most important. If you want to lift as much as possible though then size is surely no object. Again, horses for courses.

Billytheold		...	13-02-2014 @ 14:15
Sugdens crazy old person. Member 4936, 7288 posts SQ 270, BP 155, DL 270 695.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	In the states we have a lw weight which is 200 to 231 pounds. I weigh about 250 now, but lose the weight so I do not have to compete with the monsters.

MarkClegg		...	13-02-2014 @ 14:24
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370 907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 13.02.2014 @ 14:30 PM by MarkClegg I lose count of the amount of times i`ve read a title of a "Youtube" Clip and thought - A)That sounds incredible BUT its been distinctly average !! OR B)That sounds distinctly average BUT its been incredible !! Its down to WHO HOW WHERE WHY WHEN WHAT !

slimsim		...	13-02-2014 @ 14:44
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	Personally, I prefer to watch lifters around the

KevC86		...	13-02-2014 @ 14:47
Member 5141, 4204 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350 830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	I debated this question a few months back when deciding if I should stick at 105 or just pile on the size before my first strongman competition. For me the decision was easy, I've never known anyone go to a strongman to watch someone who is strong for their size its always been about watching some monster pull a bus, so I decided i'd grow to be that monster. That being said I do often find lb for lb strength impressive, especially with the Olympic lifts, guys Snatching twice their BW will always be a WTF moment


aaron_lohan		...	13-02-2014 @ 14:59
Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210 682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq	samue1son said:Okay, so the summary of this is going to be = Absolute Strength is best, do we all agree? Irrespective of impressive pound for pound strength. I notice quite a few guys who stay in a weight class for X amount of time and lift big, then eventually just pop up in open weights competing against large folk. Is this a method of somekind? Somehow keeping strength to weight ratio at its maximum before piling on weight, is that better? Why don't you just simply from the outset start piling on the weight if it contributes to your absolute strength & if absolute strength is your goal anyway? For me the best way is to keep gaining strength at your current weight then gain when it is impossible to add more strength. Though some people hit a tiny plateau then add weight, I think you need to be patient. Mind you I have often wondered if someone was to gain a load of weight would they be stronger or weaker in the end than someone who did what i recommend. Personally I have never subscribed to this idea that the the most impressive lift is a heavier one. Ive seen a 59kg lifter bench 197.5kg at the World Bench, at the same comp I missed a 202.5kg if I had have made it would that make me the better lifter? Of course a 1000lb deadlift is more impressive than say a 70kg lifter doing 310kg but absolute weight is not the be all and end all to me. It always seems to me that the people arguing for that are large lifters and at the end of the day not everyone can be a superheavyweight.

samue1son		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:00
Member 4416, 1369 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240 625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq	KevC86 said:I debated this question a few months back when deciding if I should stick at 105 or just pile on the size before my first strongman competition. For me the decision was easy, I've never known anyone go to a strongman to watch someone who is strong for their size its always been about watching some monster pull a bus, so I decided i'd grow to be that monster. That being said I do often find lb for lb strength impressive, especially with the Olympic lifts, guys Snatching twice their BW will always be a WTF moment Great reply, thanks Kev. What was the difference for strength gain when you "let yourself go" (or did you just add more muscle?). For me, short squat looking blokes always intimidated me (in terms of lifting against them) but I'm filling out my 6;6 frame now. lb for lb was always what people threw at me which I suddenly realised was stupid because my immature frame with ultra low b.f & no muscle was about 215. It stood to reason that it's impossible to consider a weight class other than against the biggest of the big.

adillon10		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:06
Member 3863, 1275 posts SQ 155, BP 110, DL 182 447.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Relative strength is the one for me, although there's always a place for absolute strength! I'd look like a tit if I was super heavy.

JamieG		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:31
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210 522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	I agree with Simon

JackRevans		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:33
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 13.02.2014 @ 15:33 PM by JackRevans JamieG said:I agree with Simon loal, I thought the

samue1son		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:35
Member 4416, 1369 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240 625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq	L O A L

Ben_F		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:38
vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350 855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	I'd say I have been impressed more times with relative strength than absolute strength. Incidently I would also say I have generally been more impressed with the mental fortitude of lighter strongmen than heavier ones.

billynomates		...	13-02-2014 @ 15:50
Member 4923, 1795 posts	Ben_F said:I'd say I have been impressed more times with relative strength than absolute strength. Incidently I would also say I have generally been more impressed with the mental fortitude of lighter strongmen than heavier ones. Jason Bergmann a good example of this

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