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stewartflett13Icon290kg dead lift. help needed22-04-2014 @ 13:36 
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This lift was really quite fast off the floor but when i got to just above my knee i didnt have the power in my glutes and hamstrings to finish the lift properly so i ended up hitching it. i probably should have set it down instead of hitch it really. i was thinking this through whilst watching the video and i think my problem comes from when i was dead lifting in Olympic shoes which i did for about 18 months, is it possible that deadlifting in oly shoes has caused muscular imbalance between my quads and GLutes/Hamstrings which in turn is causing this problem with locking out heavy weight like this or am i just talking complete s**t. any help would be awesome cheers Cool

hixxy1985Icon...22-04-2014 @ 14:44 
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widen ur grip a ittle. U start with your arms infront of your legs they are meant to be at the side
unit94Icon...22-04-2014 @ 14:56 
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http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/Deadlift-Advice-280kg-mis...

similar problem
stewartflett13Icon...22-04-2014 @ 14:56 
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hixxy1985 said:widen ur grip a ittle. U start with your arms infront of your legs they are meant to be at the side


cheers Happy so would you say out to the metal rings then? i used to put them there but for some reason decided to take them in
LessThanLukeIcon...22-04-2014 @ 15:00 
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The weight is just too heavy/you aren't strong enough to deadlift 290 properly yet.
ThingIcon...22-04-2014 @ 15:02 
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move them out a touch, GHR,s SLDL and Deficit SLDL.
if you have a revese hyper that would e a usful tool to to help strengthin the glute/hamstring area
stewartflett13Icon...22-04-2014 @ 15:12 
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Thing said:move them out a touch, GHR,s SLDL and Deficit SLDL.
if you have a revese hyper that would e a usful tool to to help strengthin the glute/hamstring area


yeah i was thinking i need to invest in a GHR or find some way to do them, i know a place where i can go use a reverse hyper what about barbell glute bridges?
JohnGymIcon...22-04-2014 @ 15:14 
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I think Luke nailed it.

I honestly believe you have the potential to be an absolute phenom but I fear you will be in snap city long before you get there.
stewartflett13Icon...22-04-2014 @ 15:38 
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JohnGym said:I think Luke nailed it.

I honestly believe you have the potential to be an absolute phenom but I fear you will be in snap city long before you get there.


the plan is now to go back work on my weak points and build up the reps on lower weights un till im hitting 280 comfortably. when i manage to bring my hamstrings, glutes and hips up in strength then that weight should go up a lot easier no more attempts at that again untill that happens
stewartflett13Icon...22-04-2014 @ 15:38 
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Post Edited: 22.04.2014 @ 15:42 PM by stewartflett13
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mozIcon...22-04-2014 @ 17:09 
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LessThanLuke said:The weight is just too heavy/you aren't strong enough to deadlift 290 properly yet.


no BS. The world needs more of you LessThanLuke. I think the dude knows that tho and is asking what will make him stronger to get the lift nice and clean?
LessThanLukeIcon...22-04-2014 @ 17:13 
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moz said:
no BS. The world needs more of you LessThanLuke. I think the dude knows that tho and is asking what will make him stronger to get the lift nice and clean?


Tbat was my point. Most of the time it isn't an imbalance, you just need to get stronger all round. So yes he needs to get stronger glutes and hams, but he also needs to get stronger quads/back etc.

I could put 360 on the bar and get it to my knees then fail, it wouldn't mean I had an imbalance.
IainKendrickIcon...22-04-2014 @ 17:24 
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As Luke said.

Ultimately your lockout is the weakest portion of the lift due to your tech and biomechanics. This is common with those that pull with a rounded back. You could rectify this somewhat but would need you to take a few steps back to work on tech.

The point about taking your grip out is a good one.

Just carry one trying to perfect tech and get stronger on the lift.
PaulSavageIcon...22-04-2014 @ 18:30 
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You are 17 and can deadlift near 300kg, so you will do crazy things almost no matter how you train, aslong as you don't get injured. Your doing the one thing that will for sure get you injured, why? There's less than no point in going anywhere near that weight.
walkerIcon...22-04-2014 @ 18:33 
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This has been covered a lot recently.

I could hitch the f**k, with straps esp, out of a lot more than I can lift clean but there is zero point and a big injury risk. You're very young, if you want to work to singles then do but just go up to what is comfortable that day.

Luke is bang on. There is no weakness to work on particularly, just the whole lift. You do seem to go for the hitch very quickly though, have patience and just keep pulling if you're going to stick at that technique. I was guilty of the same for my first year of deadlifting, I never even go to hitch now, I either grind it out or fail.

Very strong at 17, a lot more to come.

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