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JohnGymIconFlexible Dieting IIFYM15-05-2015 @ 16:57 
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This is kind of nutrition anyway...could possibly be in the General Bulls**t section.. I digress.

So, I've started Flexible Dieting. I'm eating 2400kcal per day and achieving roughly a 35/35/30 split (pro/carb/fat).

I'm eating mostly what you would consider to be 'clean' foods but I'm also eating chocolate, burgers, bagels etc most days too.
This week, since Saturday, I have lost 2.5kg and ~ 1% Bodyfat. I've had zero cravings because I've had the freedom to eat what I like, within reason.

Each Saturday will be my cheat day, whether I psychologically need it or not. I will maintain my 2400kcal limit and will continue to achieve my protein minimum requirement of 160g but the rest of the foods will be pure junk. High sugar, high carb, low fat junk.


Question is:
What are your favourite high carb but really low fat foods which you would enjoy as part of a cheat day?
I have roughly 1700kcal of junk to play with.

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PeteHodgsonIcon...15-05-2015 @ 17:13 
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Hi john. What's the thinking behind this kind of diet? Do you need to work out what percentage of each macro suits the individual before commencing? As surly they effect people differently. Then you gotta weigh and calculate your food each day?
JohnGymIcon...15-05-2015 @ 17:29 
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Post Edited: 15.05.2015 @ 17:33 PM by JohnGym
PeteHodgson said:Hi john. What's the thinking behind this kind of diet? Do you need to work out what percentage of each macro suits the individual before commencing? As surly they effect people differently. Then you gotta weigh and calculate your food each day?


Hello mate.
The main thinking is adherence. Most diets fail for most people because of the strict nature of having to avoid 'dirty foods' and having to eat boring and bland foods such as chicken and rice everyday. This IIFYM approach basically allows you to eat anything you want whenever you want provided you hit your macros.

Working out your macro goal is simple. There are loads of calculators around for that. It's a 1 minute job. Unless you are looking for 'stage condition' the typical and generic macro split would be just fine. Staying under your calorie target and hitting your protein requirement is the most important thing to worry about.

You would have to weigh and calculate your food but I've weighed and calculated my food for years so this is no different to me and is a none issue. It's dead easy to do this too. IMO any successful dieting approach requires tracking. This is no different.

Adherence is tricky for most people. This year alone I have attempted to diet around 15 times. I've usually failed within 4 days because of the strict, boring and bland nature of my diet. This diet is the only one where I haven't been struggling on. At all! Eating chocolate and burgers etc each day is a big help in that.
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...15-05-2015 @ 17:37 
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If you have decided to diet and cannot make it more than four days then I guess this is the diet for you. Apart from that....
JohnGymIcon...15-05-2015 @ 17:38 
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ChrisMcCarthy said:If you have decided to diet and cannot make it more than four days then I guess this is the diet for you. Apart from that....


Yes.
DrDIcon...15-05-2015 @ 20:16 
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Post Edited: 15.05.2015 @ 20:17 PM by DrD
Just had 80g mixed berries, 1 banana, 2 pots low fat yoghurt and 60g cocopops in a bowl. 128 g carbs, 13g protein, 6g fats.

Other favourites, less low fat...

2 toasted cinnamon and raison bagels topped with a family bag of giant chocolate buttons, gooey goodness. 170 g carbs, 35g fats

1 toasted bagels with a family bag of caramel nibbles (caramel filled giant chocolate buttons) goes very sickly. 130 carbs, 32g fats.

Second two are epic if not low fat. Just have chicken instead of beef for your main meals Wink
FazcIcon...15-05-2015 @ 20:17 
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I'm currently in love with these:

http://www.candygurus.com/wp-content/uploads/rpm-bag.jpg
FazcIcon...15-05-2015 @ 20:20 
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And these

https://theshopwindowblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/img_1289.jpg
FazcIcon...15-05-2015 @ 20:21 
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FYI I am not dieting.

http://img.tesco.com/Groceries/pi/081/7613034380081/IDShot_540...
JohnGymIcon...15-05-2015 @ 20:43 
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Now we are talking! Well in lads.

Tomorrow will be an interesting experiment.
I'll weigh in first thing tomorrow. Eat s**te all day but stay under my calorie goal. Weigh in Sunday morning. Assess damage, if any.
LuuuuuukeyIcon...15-05-2015 @ 20:57 
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I've been flirting with the idea of giving this IIFYM thing a bash, just to see if it lives up to the hype. Started yesterday. Its going well. I've eaten several Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
SawyersIcon...15-05-2015 @ 21:19 
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I've been 'doing IIFYM' since the summer in 2012. After a while it becomes habit and is incredibly easy to do. To the point where I can now guess the weight/macros of the things I eat regularly wishing 5-15g quite easily. It's also easy to adapt. E.g today I had planned to have certain food this evening, but a friend wanted steaks so I went out for that, just adjusted the rest of my food, still hit 220/430/75 no problem. And it also makes decision making for food much easier.

E.g
Should I eat X or Y.
X makes it easier to hit macros, eat X.

Then within the parameters or the macros, I eat what makes me feel/perform well.
Today consisted of
Fruit and a shake before the gym
Chicken, potatos, mix of veg
More fruit trough the afternoon
A fillet steak with peppercorn sauce, mushrooms, onions, curly fries and veg.
Then a few Oreo ice cream sandwiches with another shake.

As far as the high carb foods, I really like fruit and occasionally bagels with peanut butter etc on them (sweets pre/inter training if on a tight schedule too) I hope you enjoy it and take it for what it is as a framework rather than a specific diet. As with most things, moderation is key! Happy
SawyersIcon...15-05-2015 @ 21:23 
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Post Edited: 15.05.2015 @ 21:24 PM by Sawyers
To add:

I feel like these videos should be watched by anyone who is not familiar with the subject who wishes to have a quick introduction and gain some more information.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnPAPdT4m_g_jts_h2xcr2MFzW5uwJ2uP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLnPAPdT4m_g_jts_h2xcr2MFzW5uwJ2uP&v=GAvW6xBZjSk
JohnGymIcon...15-05-2015 @ 21:28 
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Great stuff mate. Thanks for that. Happy
SawyersIcon...15-05-2015 @ 21:34 
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JohnGym said:Great stuff mate. Thanks for that. Happy


No problem. Another useful thing is to have some 1 macronutrient foods. Incase you have one group left over.
So I use: whey for protein
Fruit/fruit juice/sweets(occasionally) for carbs
And oils/peanut butter/Nutella for fats.

I know they're not completely one macronutrient but they make it easy to hit them. Another thing is to not worry about 'borrowing' macros from other days. Since at the end of the week/month etc it won't make any difference, since as you say it's not for prepping to step on a stage or anything. So for example ive finished my food from the day previously, then gone out with the Mrs or whatever, then just took that meals macros from the next day's food. Or vice versa if you under eat.

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